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Credit where credit is due, and today 73 years ago...
Posted on 8/8/18 at 10:23 am
Posted on 8/8/18 at 10:23 am
Credit to a Democratic President.
Today, in 1945, America dropped the second atomic bomb on Nagasaki. Tens of thousands of innocents were killed, but millions of Japanese, Americans, and other innocents lived because an American President had the courage to do a hard thing.
To President Truman and his big brass Missouri balls!
Edited to protect the stupidity of me.
Today, in 1945, America dropped the second atomic bomb on Nagasaki. Tens of thousands of innocents were killed, but millions of Japanese, Americans, and other innocents lived because an American President had the courage to do a hard thing.
To President Truman and his big brass Missouri balls!
Edited to protect the stupidity of me.
This post was edited on 8/8/18 at 10:39 am
Posted on 8/8/18 at 10:25 am to Gaspergou202
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To President Truman and his big brass Missouri balls!
Japs - "fruck rou Harry, Shrow Rus"
Harry - "BOOM"
Posted on 8/8/18 at 10:26 am to Gaspergou202
"The buck stops here"
MAGA
MAGA
Posted on 8/8/18 at 10:27 am to Gaspergou202
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Credit where credit is do, and today 63 years ago...
1945 was 73 years ago..
Posted on 8/8/18 at 10:27 am to Gaspergou202
Great . This thread again. It’s almost been a whole week since the last two . Let the Brilliance commence . In fact let me get it started:
God damn Japs !
Truman was a genocidal racist mass murderer, Fukk AmeriKKKa !
Go !
Imma eat this sammich while you old boys sort this out.
God damn Japs !
Truman was a genocidal racist mass murderer, Fukk AmeriKKKa !
Go !
Imma eat this sammich while you old boys sort this out.
Posted on 8/8/18 at 10:28 am to Gaspergou202
the left would never make a thread like this. and if they did it on a poplar leftist forum, it'd be deleted and OP banned.
Posted on 8/8/18 at 10:29 am to Gaspergou202
I'd say it was one of the most difficult political/military decision of all time.
Posted on 8/8/18 at 10:30 am to Damone
If you look at it objectively it (IMO) was an easy decision; saved millions of lives and $$$$$.
Posted on 8/8/18 at 10:31 am to Wtodd
In a vacuum, sure. That's why I included political in it, he had to account for international and domestic political impacts. Not to mention the moral dilemma he himself would feel making that lone decision.
Posted on 8/8/18 at 10:31 am to Wally Sparks
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73 years
I stand corrected and embarrassed by a 1st grade math mistake.
Making such a mistake in public is embarrassing, but fortunately I didn’t do it in front of the wife! That would have been tragic!
Posted on 8/8/18 at 10:32 am to Gaspergou202
It was the only way to stop those relentless bastards. Now can we stop apologizing and playing the reparations game for it?
Posted on 8/8/18 at 10:32 am to Damone
Actually, it was a no brainer.
Posted on 8/8/18 at 10:33 am to Damone
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That's why I included political in it, he had to account for international and domestic political impacts
Can you imagine the melting if this happened today with all of the social media?
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Not to mention the moral dilemma he himself would feel making that lone decision.
I'm sure it weighed heavily on him but I'm pretty sure he always knew it was the correct decision.
Posted on 8/8/18 at 10:34 am to Eli Goldfinger
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Due
And now a spelling error!
Oh, the horror!
It’s a good thing I enjoy laughing at myself almost as much as I do at others!
Posted on 8/8/18 at 10:35 am to Midget Death Squad
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Now can we stop apologizing and playing the reparations game for it?
This is the easiest argument to win.
Those arguing against dropping the bombs are all incredibly ignorant of history and the Japanese mindset of that time.
The only other option would have been Operation Downfall, which would have made the body count from the two A-bombs look like child's play.
Posted on 8/8/18 at 10:36 am to Gaspergou202
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and today 63 years ago
Was 1955.
Posted on 8/8/18 at 10:37 am to Midget Death Squad
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. In “Mandate for Change,” Eisenhower’s autobiography, Ike related this exchange: “I voiced to him my grave misgivings, first on the basis of my belief that Japan was already defeated and that dropping the bomb was completely unnecessary, and secondly because I thought that our country should avoid shocking world opinion by the use of a weapon whose employment was, I thought, no longer mandatory as a measure to save American lives. It was my belief that Japan was, at that very moment, seeking some way to surrender with a minimum loss of ‘face.’”
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“We didn't need to do it, and we knew we didn't need to do it, and they knew that we didn't need to do it, we used them as an experiment for two atomic bombs.” That’s Brig. Gen. Carter Clarke, quoted in “The Decision to Use the Atomic Bomb,” by Gar Alperovitz.
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“The Japanese had, in fact, already sued for peace. The atomic bomb played no decisive part from a purely military point of view in the defeat of Japan. The use of atomic bombs at Hiroshima and Nagasaki was of no material assistance in our war against Japan. The Japanese were already defeated and ready to surrender.” - - Fleet Adm. Chester W. Nimitz, commander in chief of the U.S. Pacific Fleet.
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--“Certainly, prior to 31 December 1945, and in all probability, prior to 1 November 1945, Japan would have surrendered even if atomic bombs had not been dropped.” -- Adm. William D. Leahy, chief of staff to President Truman, in the U.S. Strategic Bombing Survey.
--“The war would have been over in two weeks without the Russians entering and without the atomic bomb. The atomic bomb had nothing to do with the end of the war at all.” --Maj. Gen. Curtis LeMay.
Posted on 8/8/18 at 10:43 am to Gaspergou202
I can't imagine the awe and fear people felt at that time seeing something so powerful being used.
I don't think we realized truly what we did until after we did it
I don't think we realized truly what we did until after we did it
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