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re: COVID was smeared all over Metro-NYC for weeks and weeks... 1/10 of 1% death rate?
Posted on 5/2/20 at 9:29 am to Buckeye Jeaux
Posted on 5/2/20 at 9:29 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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Buckeye Jeaux
All pure guesses.
Less than 1% of the residents have tested positive and there's a portion of those that have no symptoms.
But let's continue to hammer our economy back 100 years
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Posted on 5/2/20 at 9:42 am to Diamondawg
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So what point are you trying to make this time using a different example of your tiresome argument? We get it. You think covid is just a bad cold.
No, you ChiCom apologist. You don't get it.
Accurate data is rising up through the fog of ChiCom propaganda, and it needs to be posted every day.
People's homes, jobs, children, constitutional rights, et cetera are in grave danger because of fraudulent COVID data. Many of us will keep posting the truth.
Your pink arse doesn't like it? IDGAF
Posted on 5/2/20 at 9:58 am to Buckeye Jeaux
quote:Nope. Not the reason. I just don't trust anything coming out of New York and especially using inaccurate antibody testing. Any idea which tests they used and how accurate are they? Can the test separate the different coronaviruses?
No, you ChiCom apologist. You don't get it.
Posted on 5/2/20 at 10:02 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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I lived in Manhattan for 10 years. Rush hour subway cars are packed like sardine cans.
This is 100% true and it was even worse with everything shut down. Couple weeks ago when I went to the grocery store at about 10am it was packed on the upper westside, so much so that I’ve been walking to and from the store since.
Posted on 5/2/20 at 10:11 am to biglego
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20,000 COVID-19 deaths in that area
quote:Maybe not.
Maybe
Posted on 5/2/20 at 10:19 am to Diamondawg
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So what point are you trying to make this time using a different example of your tiresome argument? We get it. You think covid is just a bad cold.
100,000 people died of whatever flu it was in 1968, had NONE of the current horse shite, and nobody remembers it.
Posted on 5/2/20 at 10:27 am to Diamondawg
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using inaccurate antibody testing.
Another ChiCom myth
Antibody testing has not been accurate enough to 100% certify that an individual has the antibody. True (so far)
But antibody testing is fully accurate enough to test large samples of people (1000 or more) and determine with accuracy the range of that sample that have the COVID-19 antibody.
2.5% to 4.2 % (positive for antibodies in SC County) is the statistically accurate range for the Stanford Santa Clara Country antibody tests led by 2 Stanford docs.
BTW, one of those Stanford MDs is also a noted statistician and professor of statistics at Stanford.
This post was edited on 5/2/20 at 10:30 am
Posted on 5/2/20 at 10:29 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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And look at Cuomo's antibody study. Close to 21% contracted COVID in NYC - and close to 13% in the state.
Based on emerging published (mostly pre-print) antibody research, basically all of these current estimates are too high. However, the 13% for NY state probably isn't too far off, given how hard they have been hit. Using the 13% infected number produces an IFR of 1%, which is basically inline with current estimates and that gives a bit more validity to the 13%.
Posted on 5/2/20 at 10:31 am to Buckeye Jeaux
quote:When are you going to start doing that?
Many of us will keep posting the truth.
Posted on 5/2/20 at 10:32 am to gthog61
quote:1968 did not have a divided country with obvious agendas hating on Trump. Nor did we have the internet, social media and 24 hour news. Today has little to do with 1968. I am not sure exactly when this thing went off the rails but I do recall news coming out of other countries before it got here made this thing sound like a serious threat. The horrible way people were dying put a shock into a lot of folks too.
100,000 people died of whatever flu it was in 1968, had NONE of the current horse shite, and nobody remembers it.
Posted on 5/2/20 at 10:37 am to rds dc
quote:Meaning Big Phama funded no doubt.
Based on emerging published (mostly pre-print) antibody research,
But you can't have it both ways... either 21%+ have the antibodies.
OR
The the virus IS NOT contagious enough to infect more than a tiny fraction of hoards of people randomly stuffed into subway cars day after day and week after week.
[more than 4 million workers ride the subways to work every day - another million or so take other mass transit]
This post was edited on 5/2/20 at 10:38 am
Posted on 5/2/20 at 10:40 am to Buckeye Jeaux
quote:And was pretty much slammed by pretty much anyone who reviewed the study results. But you know that but choose not to accept it.
2.5% to 4.2 % (positive for antibodies in SC County) is the statistically accurate range for the Stanford Santa Clara Country antibody tests led by 2 Stanford docs.
BTW, one of those Stanford MDs is also a noted statistician and professor of statistics at Stanford.
Posted on 5/2/20 at 10:40 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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2.5% to 4.2 % is the statistically accurate range for the Stanford Santa Clara Country antibody tests led by 2 Stanford docs.
BTW, one of those Stanford MDs is also a noted statistician and professor of statistics at Stanford.
That paper got hammered in pre-print, to the point that recognized experts in the field were calling for them to withdraw the paper. They did go back and make corrections to the analysis but they can' t really correct for some of the methods they used. This resulted in a significant downward revision in their estimates. They now come up with 1.2% (0.7 - 1.8%) and when they adjust for demo (their method for this has also been called out) they get 2.8% (1.3 - 4.7%).
Posted on 5/2/20 at 10:43 am to rds dc
quote:Yep - Facebook ads for participants
That paper got hammered in pre-print, to the point that recognized experts in the field were calling for them to withdraw the paper. They did go back and make corrections to the analysis but they can' t really correct for some of the methods they used. This resulted in a significant downward revision in their estimates. They now come up with 1.2% (0.7 - 1.8%) and when they adjust for demo (their method for this has also been called out) they get 2.8% (1.3 - 4.7%).
Posted on 5/2/20 at 10:44 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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quote:
Based on emerging published (mostly pre-print) antibody research,
Meaning Big Phama funded no doubt.
But you can't have it both ways... either 21%+ have the antibodies.
OR
The the virus IS NOT contagious enough to infect more than a tiny fraction of hoards of people randomly stuffed into subway cars day after day and week after week.
[more than 4 million workers ride the subways to work every day - another million or so take other mass transit]
Did you even read the rest of my post?
quote:
However, the 13% for NY state probably isn't too far off, given how hard they have been hit. Using the 13% infected number produces an IFR of 1%, which is basically inline with current estimates and that gives a bit more validity to the 13%.
I used the 13% for NY state that you put in your post. I'm not trying to have it both ways.
Posted on 5/2/20 at 10:44 am to rds dc
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That paper got hammered in pre-print, to the point that recognized experts in the field were calling for them to withdraw the paper.
And how many of the slammers are getting and/or seeking grants from WHO, Gates Foundation, CDC, NIH, and Big Pharma - (same thing as the preceding entities listed).
This post was edited on 5/2/20 at 10:50 am
Posted on 5/2/20 at 10:48 am to rds dc
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I used the 13% for NY state that you put in your post
13% is NY "STATE". Most of the state is rural.
21% is NYC.
Posted on 5/2/20 at 12:34 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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COVID was smeared all over Metro-NYC for weeks and weeks... 1/10 of 1% death rate?
20,000,000 residents in Metropolitan NY area (about 50 mile radius of Manhattan)
20,000 COVID-19 deaths in that area
There has been many more than 20K deaths in Metro NYC since any count of 20M would have to include Jersey as far south as Newark and that area has been hit pretty bad as well. And leaving aside the folks who've died at home and therefore aren't included in the official counts, isn't 20,000 people a lot of people? Pretty much all dying in a one month period of time. And with no end in sight.
Maybe for you this is so distant that it's like when you hear about a typhoon killing ten thousand people in south east Asia or something. For folks living here it has been unconscionably terrible.
Posted on 5/2/20 at 12:38 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
quote:So you are suggesting Stanford doesn’t? You are consistently dishonest!
And how many of the slammers are getting and/or seeking grants from WHO, Gates Foundation, CDC, NIH, and Big Pharma - (same thing as the preceding entities listed).
Posted on 5/2/20 at 12:39 pm to Mo Jeaux
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Why not?
I was born in a small town. And I live in a small town. Prob’ly die in a small town. Oh, those small communities.
Just my thing I guess. It takes all throes. cheers
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