re: COVID was smeared all over Metro-NYC for weeks and weeks... 1/10 of 1% death rate?

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I'd agree with somewhere in India. But NYCs subways during rush hour are beyond belief. Google Images is purged of accurate photos. People jam into the cars until the doors won't close and then a few are pushed back out to the platform.

I lived in Manhattan for 10 years. Rush hour subway cars are packed like sardine cans.

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This is a factor but not a determinative one. The New York subway is less riders per mile of track by far as compared to other much less impacted cites cities: Paris, London, Tokyo and probably another 4-5 cities in China. Further, much of density of subway passengersin NYC is in Manhattan, but an outsized portion of the COVID activities is happening where the trains are less present, Queens and the Bronx.

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I have never thought in my lifetime where one party and its complicit media was capable of taking down the entire country and they are willing to do in order to get Trump. You know when that started. Vietnam was a divider but I am thinking that was more into 69 & 70. Assassinations but those were fringe radicals. Democratic Convention was cluster. Maybe I was just young and naive but I don't remember feeling then the way I feel now. Twitter is the worst thing ever invented. I was probably more afraid of nuclear was in 68 than anything going on in our own country. Maybe it depended on where you lived. We all trusted Walter Cronkite back then and maybe we shouldn't have.

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I dunno. A well-known, but broadly detested public figure and a Presidential candidate were killed within a few weeks of each other and a bunch of riots happened for multiple reasons. That just seems much worse than now where either side alternately demonizes the opposition party President on social media. Perhaps we'll just have to disagree on this...

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VERY glad I lived there, and VERY glad I got out.

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I liked the part where I could find 300 restaurants within walking distance.

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Fair point, though I'd argue that several dozen Americans in Chicago in late August act very differently if RFK was still around.

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Without a doubt. Plus, Nixon probably would not have beaten Bobby.

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Riders per mile of track?

What about riders per subway car. It's sardines on the NYC subway.

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I'm saying that those countries, in particular the Asian ones, serve more riders in less space. Said another way, NYC light rail only looks congested if you've not spent much time in other mega-cities.

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And people from Queens and the Bronx don't use the subway much? LOL !!!

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I wrote that there were fewer trains in service in Queens and the Bronx than there are Manhattan which is a fact. From there it could be inferred that there is greater ridership in aggregate at stops in Manhattan as compared to the totals in Queens and the Bronx. As it turns out, they keep track of that sort of thing and publish turnstile data - also a fact. At no point did I suggest that people from Queens or the Bronx "didn't use the subway much." That is nonsense that you concocted for your own benefit. Glad you got a laugh out of it though.

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I wrote that there were fewer trains in service in Queens and the Bronx than there are Manhattan which is a fact.

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^^And you consider this some kind of revelation? Of course Manhattan is the epicenter of NYC.

My point hasn't changed. New Yorkers had been swimming in COVID-19 sheddings from January thru March, yet the death rate (total population divided by COVID deaths) in Metropolitan NYC is in the range of 1/10th of 1%.

This virus had every opportunity to explode catastrophically in Metro NYC, but it did not. This is NOT the plague. This is a serious flu-like virus, but not the mega-disaster sold to us by MSM and the CDC/NIH/IHME/WHO/Gates Foundation, etc.

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1/10 of 1% of the residents of Metro NYC died of COVID-19

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You know that's 1 out of every 1000 people, right?

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but not the mega-disaster sold to us by

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longwayfromLA

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FIFY

A simple solution, nuke Manhattan and open the rest of the country up.

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You do realize that all trains from Queens and The Bronx go to Manhattan, right? And about half of all workers who live in the Bronx and Queens work in *Manhattan, right?

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Wait. So because the trains in the Bronx and Queens go to Manhattan and because people commute from the Bronx and Queens to Manhattan, you now are arguing that there are more riders and trains in Queen & the Bronx than there are in Manhattan? By that logic, you could claim there is as much light rail activity in Newark as there is in Manhattan since the Path connects to MTA at a half dozen stops in lower Manhattan.

What am I saying is what I said. There are more physical trains, MTA stops, and human being catching light rain in Manhattan than there are in either Queens or the Bronx. That is unequivocally, verifiably true. So true in fact that two posts ago, you described it as not a revelation for me to state this obvious fact. Not sure why you disagree with yourself on this point every other message.

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anyhow, here is a link to a dashboard that shows ridership by stop overlaid onto a map of the city. It should handily clear up for you where the stops are located and where the rides happen. Then you can again agree with yourself from tow post ago.