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re: COVID vaccines damage your immune system, likely permanently
Posted on 12/29/21 at 2:19 pm to BamaAtl
Posted on 12/29/21 at 2:19 pm to BamaAtl
quote:I would say you just bursted the bubble of a whole lot of posters on here, but they don't care about that. As long as a person says what they want to hear, that is all that matters.
Please stop believing erroneous 'analysis' from people who don't know what they're doing.
From the paper itself (which still isn't peer-reviewed):
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Posted on 12/29/21 at 2:42 pm to shel311
quote:
I would say you just bursted the bubble of a whole lot of posters on here, but they don't care about that.
You're one with your head in the sand. I'm not referring to this thread because I'm not sold on all the awfulness of the vaccines. I'm convinced they're near worthless for all but a few specific segments of the population, but do they do damage? - I don't know.
But my point is, you are completely duped by the Covid narrative - so it's funny/ironic to see you post about others delusion.
Posted on 12/29/21 at 2:44 pm to cssamerican
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You immune system isn’t in your nasal cavity. Just cause these guys are testing positive doesn’t mean their immune system failed. It just means they were exposed and it is their respiratory track. If they don’t get sick doesn’t that mean their immune system worked great?
This theory is only real if they are getting sicker or dying at a higher rate than pure bloods correct?
No. The only way to be more susceptible to infection is for your immune system to be LESS effective.
Just because your immune system is less effective doesn't mean you are going to die from something. But do you want a more effective immune system are a less effective immune system?
Like I posted months ago, hopefully these negative effects are not forever.
Posted on 12/29/21 at 2:57 pm to David_DJS
quote:Am I? I have a feeling you're doing what everyone does and making some lofty assumptions there to make you think that. What is my head in the sand about?
You're one with your head in the sand.
quote:What opinion I have makes you think this? This should be good...or you just won't reply at all like everyone else when I ask them this question.
But my point is, you are completely duped by the Covid narrative - so it's funny/ironic to see you post about others delusion.
This post was edited on 12/29/21 at 3:14 pm
Posted on 12/29/21 at 3:18 pm to BamaAtl
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The negative estimates in the final period arguably suggest different behaviour and/or exposure patterns in the vaccinated and unvaccinated cohorts causing underestimation of the VE. This was likely the result of Omicron spreading rapidly initially through single (super-spreading) events causing many infections among young, vaccinated individuals.
This is the theory that vaccinated individuals are more likely to be out and about in public and non-vaccinated individuals are staying at home in their basement scared of the world. I don't belive that is true.
Posted on 12/29/21 at 3:54 pm to shel311
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hat opinion I have makes you think this? This should be good...or you just won't reply at all like everyone else when I ask them this question.
I don't run. If I see a question/comment directed at me, I reply.
And I'll give you the benefit of the doubt because I'm unwilling to take the time to review your post history, so for the moment - I'll retract my assumption based strictly on vague recollections of threads I recall your participation in. But let's do this - your turn to answer a a couple of simple questions so we can clarify the perhaps hasty assumptions I made.
Do you believe the Covid scoreboard is bogus, and not just a little?
Do you agree that about 50% of "Covid hospitalizations" involve patients that are asymptomatic or mildly symptomatic for Covid?
You get the gist here. I'm asking if you're a believer in the gov't health/big health/media Covid narrative.
Posted on 12/29/21 at 4:37 pm to David_DJS
quote:Good on you
I don't run. If I see a question/comment directed at me, I reply.
quote:I fall probably right in the middle, certainly not on either extreme. I've never been for lockdowns and never been for mandates. But the flip side, I don't think 40,000 people have died from the vaccine. I don't think the vaccine is very necessary if you're young ish and healthy ish, but I also don't think you're wayyyyyy more likely to have bad shite happen to you if you do get the vaccine.
And I'll give you the benefit of the doubt because I'm unwilling to take the time to review your post history, so for the moment - I'll retract my assumption based strictly on vague recollections of threads I recall your participation in. But let's do this - your turn to answer a a couple of simple questions so we can clarify the perhaps hasty assumptions I made.
I think I basically call out a lot of what I think or know is BS for both sides, but obviously this board slants wayyyyyyyy to one side so naturally I'm going to call out that one side way more often, which then makes it look like I'm taking the opposite side.
quote:I think a lot of what the CDC gives us is nonsense. I don't think that every hosptal in America is giving out bogus stats. Meaning, I think very obviously that the unvaccinated are the vast majority if hospitalizations and deaths.
Do you believe the Covid scoreboard is bogus, and not just a little?
quote:I have no earthly idea, but wouldn't be surprised either way. I'd assume you mean patients in the hospital for something else that were tested and came up positive.
Do you agree that about 50% of "Covid hospitalizations" involve patients that are asymptomatic or mildly symptomatic for Covid?
Posted on 12/29/21 at 5:00 pm to shel311
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I have no earthly idea, but wouldn't be surprised either way. I'd assume you mean patients in the hospital for something else that were tested and came up positive.
It has actually been studied and reported on (by Harvard Med School, Tuffts and the VA - reported in the Atlantic, hardly a right wing outlet) that about half of "Covid hospitalizations" are patients that tested positive for the virus but were admitted/treated for illnesses/injuries not related to Covid and were asymptomatic or mildly symptomatic.
It blows me away that this isn't known far/wide. If you're not surprised by this, then I'll say that my assumption was wrong that you've bought into the Covid BS.
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I don't think that every hosptal in America is giving out bogus stats. Meaning, I think very obviously that the unvaccinated are the vast majority if hospitalizations and deaths.
Do you think every hospital/state has its own reporting criteria/protocols? I don't. I think the CDC gives explicit instructions on how to report Covid hospitalizations, Covid deaths, etc. Haven't we read about this? - several months ago when they announced that vaccinated admittees would no longer be tested for the virus, but the unvaccinated would be? That wasn't a local or state instruction - I think it's what is done across the country as per the CDC. If I'm right about that, then yes - every hospital in the country and every state health department is giving out bogus Covid stats, because that's what they're directed to do by the CDC, and you're wrong in assuming that the vast majority of hospitalizations are unvaccinated.
The Death Certificate Matching program is another example. Every state follows it because they were required to by the CDC. I would imagine refusing to because you want actual doctors/MEs determining cause of death would mean you'd lose all sorts of federal funding. That's usually how they get compliance.
Posted on 12/29/21 at 6:11 pm to BamaAtl
quote:Where have you been? What pisses me off is when these studies come out, you can pretty much predict how posters here respond and unfortunately, it is straight up based on their political views. It's really frustrating that politics are still in charge of what's right and what's wrong.
Please stop believing erroneous 'analysis' from people who don't know what they're doing.
Posted on 12/29/21 at 6:23 pm to Revelator
No they don’t
Posted on 12/29/21 at 6:23 pm to Revelator
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It means the OPPOSITE of what you were told: it means the vaccines helps the virus to infect you (by suppressing your immune system, probably permanently each time we are injected according to Dr. Ryan Cole)
At this point, I'm just begging these morons to learn anything about basic immunology. Please god.
Posted on 12/29/21 at 6:24 pm to BamaAtl
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Please stop believing erroneous 'analysis' from people who don't know what they're doing.
Most of the posters on this board should be forced to have all their medical problems addressed by car mechanics for the remainder of their lives, just to illustrate the absurdity of their beliefs.
Posted on 12/29/21 at 6:31 pm to CubsFanBudMan
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This is the theory that vaccinated individuals are more likely to be out and about in public and non-vaccinated individuals are staying at home in their basement scared of the world. I don't belive that is true.
I’d argue that the opposite was true. The unvaccinated people we know haven’t altered their lives at all for the most part unless forced to do so.
Posted on 12/29/21 at 6:56 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Most of the posters on this board should be forced to have all their medical problems addressed by car mechanics
You should volunteer to enforce your new stupid rule.
You are losing your damn mind.
Posted on 12/29/21 at 7:01 pm to roadGator
My mind is the same place it’s always been
I support your right to be a moron without fear of government intervention, I only ask that it be acknowledged that you are in fact a moron.
I support your right to be a moron without fear of government intervention, I only ask that it be acknowledged that you are in fact a moron.
This post was edited on 12/29/21 at 7:02 pm
Posted on 12/29/21 at 7:09 pm to cssamerican
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You immune system isn’t in your nasal cavity.
Maybe you should let people that know what they are talking about post on the subject, rather than giving a poor opinion
quote:
Mucosal tissue: Mucosal surfaces are prime entry points for pathogens, and specialized immune hubs are strategically located in mucosal tissues like the respiratory tract
Posted on 12/29/21 at 7:13 pm to Revelator
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the vaccine they gave you is going to make you MORE likely to get infected
Several of us have tried to tell you from the get, they had evidence of ADE before they approved the vaccines
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What is ADE?
ADE occurs when the antibodies generated during an immune response recognize and bind to a pathogen, but they are unable to prevent infection. Instead, these antibodies act as a “Trojan horse,” allowing the pathogen to get into cells and exacerbate the immune response.
Posted on 12/29/21 at 7:17 pm to RobbBobb
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ADE occurs when the antibodies generated during an immune response recognize and bind to a pathogen, but they are unable to prevent infection. Instead, these antibodies act as a “Trojan horse,” allowing the pathogen to get into cells and exacerbate the immune response.
What do you think we would see, clinically, in this situation?
Posted on 12/29/21 at 7:32 pm to Roger Klarvin
Moron over what?
The vax?
Lol.
I took the first two.
That does not change the fact that have lost your mind. Relax.
The vax?
Lol.
I took the first two.
That does not change the fact that have lost your mind. Relax.
Posted on 12/29/21 at 7:37 pm to cssamerican
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This theory is only real if they are getting sicker or dying at a higher rate than pure bloods correct?
They’ve nuked their immune system and T cells. Walking petri dishes where they’ll be susceptible to everything. Their bodies also won’t be able to fight cancer.
This post was edited on 12/29/21 at 7:47 pm
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