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COVID-1984 was created in a Wuhan Lab? MSM “fact-checkers” said it was a crazy conspiracy:

Posted on 5/27/21 at 7:53 am
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 5/27/21 at 7:53 am
Why should we believe anything claimed by these self-anointed citadels of truthful facts?

The simple reality is we can’t.

Henceforth, any poster that promotes any “fact-check” by these MSM “fact-checkers” are very likely disseminating propaganda and are themselves partisan hacks pushing fake news.














Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
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Posted on 5/27/21 at 7:58 am to
This current media is the enemy. They need to start hearing from us and feeling the heat for their lies.
Posted by LSUwag
Florida man
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 5/27/21 at 8:01 am to
They employ the same tactics about climate change.

Anytime I see something saying a a consensus of scientists agree, I know it’s a bold faced lie.
Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 5/27/21 at 8:01 am to
You can get liberal sheep to believe almost anything if you begin with 'experts say...'
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/27/21 at 8:06 am to
the "lab leak" hypothesis and the "man-made" hypothesis are 2 very different things
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 5/27/21 at 8:08 am to
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the "lab leak" hypothesis and the "man-made" hypothesis are 2 very different things


Maybe...maybe not.
Posted by ezride25
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Posted on 5/27/21 at 8:09 am to
The term “fact-checker” is propaganda in and of itself.

Think about it.

It’s designed to hedge against a loss in credibility, but in reality it’s just a second lie.
Posted by PhDoogan
Member since Sep 2018
14977 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 8:10 am to
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the "lab leak" hypothesis and the "man-made" hypothesis are 2 very different things


Very true, but watch for the next iteration of conflation when the MSM juxtaposes "man-made" with "man-altered naturally occurring virus" in order to save face that the former fact-check was true.
This post was edited on 5/27/21 at 8:12 am
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 5/27/21 at 8:19 am to
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the "lab leak" hypothesis and the "man-made" hypothesis are 2 very different things
100% correct.

But both seem more likely than not.
Not only did CV19 not come from Bat Soup, it's increasingly evident CV19 is not a even a bat virus. Infection/transmission of Covid-19 in bats is not sustainable.
quote:

Mink farms provide the only current source of evidence for maintenance of naturally acquired infection in an animal population and spillback to humans. The housing of mink at unnaturally high densities and the spatial structure of farms may facilitate rapid spread and persistence of the virus in these captive populations.

LINK
Posted by Septiger
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Posted on 5/27/21 at 8:36 am to
Who’s fact checking the fact checkers?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/27/21 at 8:39 am to
quote:

the "lab leak" hypothesis and the "man-made" hypothesis are 2 very different things


Maybe, maybe not.

If it were lab made, it would have to been an accidental leak or purposeful attack.

So there's a good chance it could be lab made and lab leaked.
Posted by PhDoogan
Member since Sep 2018
14977 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 8:44 am to
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Mink farms provide the only current source of evidence for maintenance of naturally acquired infection in an animal population and spillback to humans.


Damn rich bitches and pimps for their love of flashy coats!

Not to quibble, this article doesn't state that CV19 did not originate in bats, but that bats were not intermediary that allowed the bat virus to jump to humans.

quote:

Although SARS-CoV-2 may have originated in bats, its closest identified genetic ancestor (RATG13) being a ß-CoV isolated from the intermediate horseshoe bat (Rhinolophus affinis) [13], the proximal cause of infection in humans has yet to be identified.


So, after a year+, we don't know what caused the rona to jump to humans, but until this week it was a mad conspiracy theory to think that the noble WIV could have been fricking around with gain of function experiments with bat viruses that led to the jump to humans.



Posted by thetempleowl
dallas, tx
Member since Jul 2008
15704 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 9:51 am to
Actually my suspicion is everything Trump did was true.

It came from the Wuhan lab.

Everything else is not known.

It is known that the Chinese encouraged Wuhan residents to travel globally while preventing them from traveling within China.

But the press doesn't report this because of Chinese money.
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 5/27/21 at 10:46 am to
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This current media is the enemy. They need to start hearing from us and feeling the heat for their lies.


Quick question- do you use Facebook and/or Twitter?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 5/27/21 at 11:07 am to
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the "lab leak" hypothesis and the "man-made" hypothesis are 2 very different things


Only if you believe the result of a gain of function experiment isn’t “man-made.”
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 5/27/21 at 2:27 pm to
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Only if you believe the result of a gain of function experiment isn’t “man-made.”
Yes and no.

Chinese science has a history of ineptitude. Their labs have a history of sloppy screw ups and accidental release of viruses.

So in that sense whether Covid-19 evolved in the caves of Yunnan and was transported 1200 miles to Wuhan for study, or was produced through captive infected bats in the lab, or GOF, its accidental release was predictable, and should be of little surprise.

Chinese labs are run by CCP bureaucrats, not scientists. They have little significant understanding of, or respect for, necessary safety or protocols. WIV is the only BSL-4 lab in the world subject to that sort of dangerous operational structure. Yet Fauci, Collins, Baric and the NIH supported it, and abetted work there. Aided incompetence is the original sin in the Covid story.

The fact is, WIV was going to eventually release a bad bug. It was predictable, inevitable. Unless there are severe consequences, Chinese labs will do it again. Fauci, Collins, and other complicit international parties covering for obvious CCP ineptitude ensure future lab induced pandemics. That should be the primary focus.

GOF is obviously important, but actually secondary. For example, if a naturally occurring SARS-CoV-1 type virus gets released, it could be far worse than CV19. Yet the Chinese continue to collect, concentrate and store them at the WIV. The smiling testimony of Francis Collins and Tony Fauci make it evident WHO and NIH continue to cover and support Chinese "science".
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
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Posted on 5/27/21 at 2:50 pm to
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Quick question- do you use Facebook and/or Twitter?


No. Why?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
131628 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 3:30 pm to
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Not to quibble, this article doesn't state that CV19 did not originate in bats
No. That's my statement. But, based on science, it is a painfully obvious conclusion.

Covid-19 IS NOT A BAT VIRUS!

Covid-19, which the CCP and our abetting MSM originally attributed to Bat Soup, is not a bat virus. Perhaps its progenitor was a bat virus ... prior to GOF manipulation or a "mink" intermediary.

But that really isn't terribly relevant is it?

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Incidentally, we will hear more about mink. Bank it.

Shi Zhengli (the Bat Woman) actually released a claim (couched as a "study") that Chinese mink farms were the likely source of Covid-19. Her concocted "findings" are being picked up and trumpeted by others. I haven't heard Fauci commenting directly on the BatWoman mink "theory", but he's commented several times on mink as a vector.

Since Fauci and Collins are so complimentary of BatWoman's excellence and honesty as a scientist, let's examine her "mink intermediary thesis."

• The type of minks that have been found to carry COVID-19 are Neovison Mink.

• Neovison Mink are confined exclusively to mink farms located in the colder climate provinces of Heilongjiang, Jilin, Liaoning, Hebei, and Shandong.

• The southernmost of these provinces, Shandong, is over 550 miles from Wuhan and over 1700 miles from Yunnan bats.

• The only "mink" leaving the Shandong farms are skinned. There is no record or attestation of live bats or mink in the Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market (aka, Wuhan Wet Market)

• Bats endemic to northeast China do not carry coronaviruses associated with SARS and CV19. Those viruses are only found in horseshoe bats in the caves of Yunnan Province.

In other words, BatWoman is full of shite, but is still fronted as a competent, ethical, truthful "scientist".
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 5/27/21 at 4:43 pm to
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the "lab leak" hypothesis and the "man-made" hypothesis are 2 very different things




What exactly is your point?

Do you understand what “Gain Of Function Research” (GOFR) means? It means exactly what it says: a pathogen has been genetically manipulated to allow it to gain added properties such as increasing the transmissibility and the virulence of that pathogen.

If GOFR was indeed the ultimate origin of COVID-1984 — it originated in a lab.


Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Member since May 2020
21541 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 4:49 pm to
quote:

The term “fact-checker” is propaganda in and of itself.

Think about it.

It’s designed to hedge against a loss in credibility, but in reality it’s just a second lie.


Everything about this entire pandemic has been one lie stacked upon another from the get-go.

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