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re: Coulter being Coulter; bashes Dr Keith Brantley

Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:42 pm to
Posted by Poodlebrain
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:42 pm to
Ann Coulter's made a career of making statements intended to challenge conventional wisdom. It is no surprise that she operates near the boundary of good taste. That boundary is not clearly defined as it is a matter of personal perspective. She often crosses the boundary in the opinion of most progressives, but not most conservatives. This is a case where she has crossed the line even in the opinion of most conservatives.

While her comments were in poor taste, they are not without merit. Coulter deserves criticism for how she delivered her message, but the message still deserves consideration.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:43 pm to
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Coulter deserves criticism for how she delivered her message, but the message still deserves consideration.


very good way to put it
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:44 pm to
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I have never had a conversation with Obama. But I know he's a communist. I have never had a conversation with Justin Bieber but I know he's a prick.


And Coulter has no knowledge of Brantly other than he has Ebola and was flown home. She did take time to look up his hometown. Perhaps she has his astrological sign as well. Not analogous to your knowledge of public figures.

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She didn't advocate

No. But she clearly decided that the $2M of Samaritan's Purse money was a bad investment. I'd guess Franklin Graham disagrees. Know who I'm going to trust more with missiological decisions with respect to a budget more than Ann Coulter? Franklin Graham.
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Give me 3 examples of misinterpretation of the "Great Commission".

First, the Great Commission is an imperative. We are to go into all the world (if we believe the Bible and stuff) and make disciples. Nowhere is a ROI calculation present (either in Matthew or Mark). And Mark makes it plain that there will be dangers in going. It doesn't mitigate the responsibility of the person to go at all. She further assumes that all going is done for narcissistic reasons. Being intimately involved in a small shoestring missions operation, I see guys with full time jobs take weeks of their own vacation, spend their own money to go build a home for a widow or 3 on a regular basis. Quite the exercise in self-aggrandizement it is not.
Posted by Pinecone Repair
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 3:02 pm to
She's right.
Posted by beebefootballfan
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 3:18 pm to
Easily the dumbest transvestite in America. Easily
Posted by Navytiger74
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 3:29 pm to
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Coulter deserves criticism for how she delivered her message, but the message still deserves consideration.


No, the message itself was stupid. That she delivered it like the obnoxious troll we've come to know should have been expected.
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 3:30 pm to
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I think you might want to edit this post becasue Islamic jihadists, abortion clinic bombers and Israeli settlers all believe they are doing what God is calling them to do.


Ya know, track, ya gotta good point there. But let's face it...how many abortion clinic bombers are there? Once every 10 years?
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 3:36 pm to
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God tells people what the people want him to tell them. Trust me - that's how it really works.

So, how come God doesn't tell me how to chip from 10 yards off the green within reasonable tap in distance? Hmmm? I would think if God were all knowing he make spaketh to me about this issue. I even sacrificed a skink last month as an offering. But no word. I am forsaken.
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 3:41 pm to
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And Coulter has no knowledge of Brantly other than he has Ebola and was flown home.


Really? So here is a list of things she doesn't know according to you:

She doesn't know he is a male.
She doesn't know he is a doctor.
She doesn't know that he is white.
She doesn't know if he speaks English.
Should I go on about the other 100 things she doesn't know that I somehow know?

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She didn't advocate No. But she clearly decided that the $2M of Samaritan's Purse money was a bad investment. I'd guess Franklin Graham disagrees. Know who I'm going to trust more with missiological decisions with respect to a budget more than Ann Coulter? Franklin Graham.


1. Thanks for admitting that she didn't advocate anything. But that was an easy admission.

2. I agree that it was a bad investment. So what?

3. Why is she supposed to agree with Franklin Graham?

4. Missiological is not a word.

I'm enjoying the dance. Your move. This is going to be great fun for Zach.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 3:43 pm to
LINK
We'll start with your most glaring stupidity and work our ways backwards.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 3:45 pm to
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She doesn't know he is a male. She doesn't know he is a doctor. She doesn't know that he is white. She doesn't know if he speaks English. Should I go on about the other 100 things she doesn't know that I somehow know?

She doesn't know anything about his motivation for doing what he did. She pretends to know that. That was the point of my pointing out that she didn't know Brantly and your comparison to Obama and Biebs.

The rest of your post seems incoherent.
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 3:50 pm to
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We'll start with your most glaring stupidity and work our ways backwards.


Your link requires registration. But I do have an actual Miriam Webster Dictionary in the house and can't find the word. Perhaps it's something new.

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She doesn't know anything about his motivation for doing what he did.


How do you know and why does it matter?
She is critiquing what he did.

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The rest of your post seems incoherent.


This is because I dance a lot faster than you.



Posted by gatorrocks
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 4:01 pm to
Ahh. The right's Michael Moore.

At least she's honest about wanting to make money.

But seriously... She sucks.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 4:06 pm to
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Your link requires registration. But I do have an actual Miriam Webster Dictionary in the house and can't find the word. Perhaps it's something new.

Didn't for me.

Here's another link. LINK

The word originated as part of the school of theology dedicated to mission work. It's etymology is mid 1800s. That might be recent.

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How do you know and why does it matter? She is critiquing what he did.

She is criticizing his motive without an apparent basis. She presupposes his motives and works backwards. That's why it matters. If she's wrong, then her whole foundational thesis is irrelevant to the subject she chose.

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This is because I dance a lot faster than you.

It's because your points aren't nearly as cogent as you believe them to be.
Posted by Poodlebrain
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 4:23 pm to
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No, the message itself was stupid.
It is fine for you have that opinion. But would you care to explain why the message was stupid?
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 4:24 pm to
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The word originated as part of the school of theology dedicated to mission work. It's etymology is mid 1800s. That might be recent.


Your link isn't recent. It looks like 1970s.

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She is criticizing his motive without an apparent basis. She presupposes his motives and works backwards. That's why it matters. If she's wrong, then her whole foundational thesis is irrelevant to the subject she chose.


She is criticizing his actions based on his actions. If a journalist cannot do that..then I can murder you and someone can criticize me and I can say "well, you don't know why I murdered him."

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It's because your points aren't nearly as cogent as you believe them to be.


I'm the most cogent human being on the planet. If not, name 3. Your move, bass.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 4:27 pm to
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She is criticizing his actions based on his actions. If a journalist cannot do that..then I can murder you and someone can criticize me and I can say "well, you don't know why I murdered him."

No. She's supposing without evidence what his motives were. She supposed he wants to be thought of as heroic. She has no evidence of that which she presents. She apparently associates a doctor volunteering their time in Africa with a narcissistic trend in Christianity. I'm not sure that even fits your claim she's judging him by his actions.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 5:04 pm to
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but we do have poor people, within our society

Yes, and these people don't need a fraction of the help that people in 3rd world poverty need.
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i have issues with this sort of "goodwill bragging"

How do you know these people don't, you know, actually care about helping others?
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 5:32 pm to
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It is fine for you have that opinion. But would you care to explain why the message was stupid?


The mission of the organization Dr. Brantley chose to work for focuses on developing nations (3rd world, if we choose to drop the euphemism). Samaritan's purse has done so throughout their history. Who the hell is she to say that choosing to focus on nations with minimal infrastructure (medical or otherwise) is somehow unworthy of Christ's calling, or some misallocation of freely given resources.

Who in the States would be left to suffer with any disease were it not for pure non-governmental
charity?

This man willingly chose to use his training and talents to fulfill the Great Commission according to his own conscience, faith, and ideals.

You, Ann Coulter, Zach (who would save his dog over a human stranger and supports abortion), and a host of other dumbasses don't have a valid argument or opinion to offer.

Thanks for giving me the "ok" to have my opinion, though.

Posted by onmymedicalgrind
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 5:35 pm to
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