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re: Could a coup realistically happen in the U.S.?
Posted on 10/28/20 at 8:39 am to Lynxrufus2012
Posted on 10/28/20 at 8:39 am to Lynxrufus2012
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Military have sworn oath to defend the constitution.
So does every elected official
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Posted on 10/28/20 at 8:40 am to tigersaint74
IMHO, the USA has already been subject to a successful coup. The Deep State Globalist Elite now have total control over the USA.
Posted on 10/28/20 at 8:51 am to tigersaint74
Our warriors and pilots would never follow thru on unconstitutional orders from a general.
Posted on 10/28/20 at 8:57 am to LuckyTiger
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Democrat Party leaders openly say they will not accept results of the election
That’s treason and should be punished accordingly.
This post was edited on 10/28/20 at 9:16 am
Posted on 10/28/20 at 8:58 am to tigersaint74
Yes, they are in the process of one right now.
Posted on 10/28/20 at 8:59 am to tigersaint74
Underway now . Talking point if Trump wins slightly ( I believe 320-330 ECV myself) is that cheating has happened as polls show that this is a impossibility . Since MSM has been spouting anti-Trump for years and all moderators, personalities, dem leadership, anti Trumpers as well as the general populace is clueless on most things most of the time , then yes I could agree a coup is underway
Posted on 10/28/20 at 9:01 am to DabosDynasty
November 22 1963
Posted on 10/28/20 at 9:08 am to tigersaint74
You can’t be serious, there have been multiple attempted coup’s in the last three years
Posted on 10/28/20 at 9:11 am to tigersaint74
By its very nature a coup is always possible. A successful coup is the hard part.
Posted on 10/28/20 at 9:14 am to bluedragon
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t was claimed that up to 60% of the Police would simply walk away. The US Military and National Guard would not only walk away to the tune of approximately 70%, but would take their weapons with them.
This isn't your Grandfather's coup.
Lawless Mayors and Attorney Generals have ordered the police to stand down when faced with rioters. If the rioters do get arrested the AGs release them within hours and never press charges.
Citizens that defend themselves from rioters are being arrested and prosecuted by those same AG.
Who needs the military under those circumstances?
Posted on 10/28/20 at 9:16 am to tigersaint74
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Could a coup realistically happen in the U.S.?
we are in year 3.8 of an ongoing coup against a duly elected president so its a silly question
were you trying to ask if they will continue the coup for another 4.2 years? the answer to that question is yes
Posted on 10/28/20 at 9:21 am to The Maj
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Could say it is Kennedy getting capped...
I'm going with this.
He was the first to publicly declare war on the MIC and the IC. They immediately took care of both him and his brother. Eisenhower was the first to warn about it. But he was smart enough to do it on his way out.
Posted on 10/28/20 at 9:30 am to shawnlsu
The wisdom of the founders.
The greatest thing they gave us was the born-in right to defend our freedoms with arms. It embedded a gun culture that protects the country to this day, nearly 250 years later.
As long as our population is armed and vigilant, no standing army would dare. If it wasn't over quickly it would be a war of attrition at the least. The only hope for the plotters is a Balkan style Revolution or mass brainwashing via propaganda in schools, media and in collusion with tech giants through social media. The ladder is the route they have chosen because they know even the former would likely end badly for them at this point. Plus they don't have the stomach for it. Giant pussies. The whole lot of them.
It's very important that y'all work at home to counter the education your kids are receiving in school. Even in a parish like I'm in, that is overwhelmingly red, they teach America-bad in history class in the public schools here.
Also vitally important that you monitor your kids television intake and totally cut them off of social media. At least until about age 14 or so which I consider the Age of Reason. By then you would have had 14 years of only your political and social influence so by then they can make smart choices about the propaganda they get introduced to.
The greatest thing they gave us was the born-in right to defend our freedoms with arms. It embedded a gun culture that protects the country to this day, nearly 250 years later.
As long as our population is armed and vigilant, no standing army would dare. If it wasn't over quickly it would be a war of attrition at the least. The only hope for the plotters is a Balkan style Revolution or mass brainwashing via propaganda in schools, media and in collusion with tech giants through social media. The ladder is the route they have chosen because they know even the former would likely end badly for them at this point. Plus they don't have the stomach for it. Giant pussies. The whole lot of them.
It's very important that y'all work at home to counter the education your kids are receiving in school. Even in a parish like I'm in, that is overwhelmingly red, they teach America-bad in history class in the public schools here.
Also vitally important that you monitor your kids television intake and totally cut them off of social media. At least until about age 14 or so which I consider the Age of Reason. By then you would have had 14 years of only your political and social influence so by then they can make smart choices about the propaganda they get introduced to.
This post was edited on 10/28/20 at 9:34 am
Posted on 10/28/20 at 9:31 am to LBro337
A coup has been in the making for about 30 years. There was/is no way to take over the US constitutional ruled government through a sudden event/attack, we had/have too many fail safes in place to allow an event like that to be successful.
What is possible though is for someone with money and patience to build a foundation and over time establish enough pieces throughout government and society to change American citizens value of its government. Everything we are seeing today in this country is rooted to 1992 which was the start of the EU through the Maastricht Treaty and George Soros breaking the Bank of England.
The formulation in Europe of the Maastricht Treaty opened pandoras box and the Devil that is known as George Soros was given the power through money to run rampant across the globe.
It is not an easy trail to track but in essence, George Soros broke the Bank of England which was made possible by the political negotiation for the begining of the EU. Soros then had the money and power to buy political clout. The EU was formed to create an cohesive economy with a single currency for european countries but through the corruption of this one single EU government SOROS was able to turn the EU government into a full blown authority over all policies of European nations. At the same time he was corrupting the EU he was building inroads into the US government through soft channels like charities, universities, then corporations and politicians. All entities that will do just about anything when someone comes offering money.
What is possible though is for someone with money and patience to build a foundation and over time establish enough pieces throughout government and society to change American citizens value of its government. Everything we are seeing today in this country is rooted to 1992 which was the start of the EU through the Maastricht Treaty and George Soros breaking the Bank of England.
The formulation in Europe of the Maastricht Treaty opened pandoras box and the Devil that is known as George Soros was given the power through money to run rampant across the globe.
It is not an easy trail to track but in essence, George Soros broke the Bank of England which was made possible by the political negotiation for the begining of the EU. Soros then had the money and power to buy political clout. The EU was formed to create an cohesive economy with a single currency for european countries but through the corruption of this one single EU government SOROS was able to turn the EU government into a full blown authority over all policies of European nations. At the same time he was corrupting the EU he was building inroads into the US government through soft channels like charities, universities, then corporations and politicians. All entities that will do just about anything when someone comes offering money.
This post was edited on 10/28/20 at 9:36 am
Posted on 10/28/20 at 11:35 am to JJJimmyJimJames
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November 2008
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Nah, been going on longer than that... Could say when Reagan was pushed to pick Bush as his running mater... Could say it is when Nixson was forced to resign... Could say it is Kennedy getting capped... It was well before 2008...
Even further than that if read any on Patton and his experience/opinions of how the war and post war was handled for WWII.
Even further than that if you track back questionable events that have lead to US entry into war back to the explosion on the USS Maine that lead to the Spanish American War. Not saying it does, but it fits the pattern.
Posted on 10/28/20 at 11:36 am to tigersaint74
Ummm, yes. I don’t think it would be a military coup right now, more of a Julius Caesar one.
Posted on 10/28/20 at 11:37 am to jcaz
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Our warriors and pilots would never follow thru on unconstitutional orders from a general.
Well, I once thought that LE would not be doing some of the stuff they are doing willingly either...
"never" is a very long time...
Posted on 10/28/20 at 11:39 am to LuckyTiger
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Rioting and violence increase and spread to every Democrat run city. Police are ordered to stand down or are outright disbanded. Trump invokes the Insurrection Act, deploying the military to restore order. Top military leaders refuse to follow Trump’s command to restore law and order. They tell the President no. They write opinions in the NYT and WaPo and LA Times and are praised by the media.
This already happened this summer
Posted on 10/29/20 at 11:11 am to jcaz
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Our warriors and pilots would never follow thru on unconstitutional orders from a general.
Warriors and pilots are trained to follow lawful orders, but, they are not trained to discern the "lawful" nature of particular orders. Because they are trained to trust the orders of their chain of command, they are most likely to follow those orders on the presumption that they are lawful and constitutional.
There have been instances of individual US military personnel refusing to follow particular orders of their chain of command, on the basis that such orders were unlawful or illegal. Whenever such a case was brought to court for a legal challenge, the law has almost always sided with the chain of command.
The way that today's Army Commanders approach these issues is as follows: there's no need for them to make the "legal call" on their own, because they have a member of their staff who is an Army lawyer (a JAG). The JAG provides the legal recommendation to the commander. Now, how many commanders do you suppose will ignore the advice of their JAG and implement a military solution or plan that the JAG has told them is "unlawful"? Especially knowing full well that his own disregard for the JAG's advice will certainly be on official records that could easily be reviewed by the chain of command all the way up to POTUS?
Posted on 10/29/20 at 11:14 am to LuckyTiger
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Absolutely.
100%.
Say Trump wins the election. Democrats sue. Supreme Court rules election results valid. Democrats begin rioting in cities again, burn, loot, murder. Democrat Party leaders openly say they will not accept results of the election. Media defends the rioting and lawlessness while condemning Trump and the election 24/7. UN and international organizations declare the US election was not free or fair. Rioting and violence increase and spread to every Democrat run city. Police are ordered to stand down or are outright disbanded. Trump invokes the Insurrection Act, deploying the military to restore order. Top military leaders refuse to follow Trump’s command to restore law and order. They tell the President no. They write opinions in the NYT and WaPo and LA Times and are praised by the media.
What then?
Well, for starters, those military leaders will be court martialed.
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