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re: Could A Bombshell Discovery Render All of Biden's Presidential Actions 'Null and Void'?
Posted on 3/7/25 at 11:30 am to Placekicker
Posted on 3/7/25 at 11:30 am to Placekicker
No. I can’t believe the dumbasses that think this shite is true enough to post it.
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Posted on 3/7/25 at 11:32 am to KCT
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It would be great if they could do this. Probably a longshot, but I would LOVE for every judicial nomination made by Biden to be considered null and void. From the non-biologist all the way down.
Not to mention the pardons and clemency orders
Posted on 3/7/25 at 11:36 am to MintBerry Crunch
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No. I can’t believe the dumbasses that think this shite is true enough to post it.
It is amazing.
Posted on 3/7/25 at 11:38 am to Placekicker
I read that Obama used autopen. So unless there’s a law against it, the autopen isn’t the issue. The issue would be whether or not it was Biden authorizing the signature and for that, you’d have to prove it wasn’t.
Posted on 3/7/25 at 11:40 am to Placekicker
Unless someone from the inner circle which ran the White House during his decline (all 4 years of it) decides to spill the beans (and, possibly, will need some sort of proof), all an "investigation" is going to uncover is "oh, yeah, he totally knew what he was signing".
Don't get me wrong, I love the idea but I think this will end up being a snipe hunt because I don't see anyone within that group ever coming forward, especially with any hard evidence.
Don't get me wrong, I love the idea but I think this will end up being a snipe hunt because I don't see anyone within that group ever coming forward, especially with any hard evidence.
Posted on 3/7/25 at 11:50 am to VoxDawg
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United States v. Throckmorton would love a moment of your time.
In 25 words or less what does that wall of text say.
Posted on 3/7/25 at 11:57 am to damnstrongfan
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In 25 words or less what does that wall of text say.
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Fraud vitiates everything.
Is that bite-sized enough for you?
Posted on 3/7/25 at 11:59 am to BarberitosDawg
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If this is true and could be reversed it would be the biggest win in the history of government.
In a sane and just world it’s not beyond possibility. The problem we have is that when it comes to making the BIG decisions, the TOUGH decisions, the decisions with monumental repercussions, you will not find that man or woman in any branch of government. You could have a warehouse of evidence but no one has the courage to stand alone for what is right.
Posted on 3/7/25 at 12:14 pm to VoxDawg
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Fraud vitiates everything.
The takeaway from Throckmorton is not that "fraud vitiates everything." That phrase was used one time as a quote from a legal treatise.
Posted on 3/7/25 at 12:19 pm to BarberitosDawg
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If this is true and could be reversed it would be the biggest win in the history of government.
And the democrats wont be able to do the same to Trump. About everything Trump has signed as been in front of cameras. Or maybe they will say that is AI and Trump isnt real.
Posted on 3/7/25 at 12:21 pm to Mickey Goldmill
quote:And, as I recall, the Throckmorton case was not dealing with a situation where the Constitution provided the remedy.
The takeaway from Throckmorton is not that "fraud vitiates everything." That phrase was used one time as a quote from a legal treatise.
Again as I recall, the Throckmorton court was sitting as a court of equity.
Posted on 3/7/25 at 12:24 pm to Placekicker
It was obvious during his campaign that the retarded pedophile had no clue where he was 90% of the time. I don't know why anything he "did" would count at all, considering the statement above.
Posted on 3/7/25 at 12:37 pm to SammyTiger
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but esignatures are legal in every state
Are you suggesting that an esignature that is not performed by the signatory is valid and enforceable in all states?
Are you suggesting that it is EVER valid and enforceable.
Posted on 3/7/25 at 12:38 pm to Placekicker
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Could A Bombshell Discovery Render All of Biden's Presidential Actions 'Null and Void'?
Simple answer is no
Posted on 3/7/25 at 12:41 pm to moneyg
quote:The question is whether it was authorized by the purported signatory.quote:Are you suggesting that an esignature that is not performed by the signatory is valid and enforceable in all states?
but esignatures are legal in every state
Are you suggesting that it is EVER valid and enforceable.
If you can get past the 25th Amendment problem (which you cannot), your approach would be to assert that NO e-sig could EVER have been authorized by Biden, because he lacked the legal capacity to grant such authorization due to non compos mentis status.
This post was edited on 3/7/25 at 12:54 pm
Posted on 3/7/25 at 1:03 pm to Placekicker
... so chew on this a bit will you ...
On Dec. 21, 2024 Congress passed the Social Security Fairness Act and was set to be signed by Biden.
LINK
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Senate passes Social Security Fairness Act
By Jeanne Sahadi, CNN
3 minute read
Updated 10:07 AM EST, Sat December 21, 2024
... on January 5, 2025 (late Sunday) Biden signs the bill into law
LINK
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H.R.82 - Social Security Fairness Act of 2023118th Congress (2023-2024)
... but the thing is --- why the gap between the time Congress passed the bill to be sent to Biden. To the date Biden actually signs the thing?
... 16 days
So now you have to minus out 2 Sundays and 2 holidays ,and that makes 14 days. Plus the day of the actual signing is on a Sunday , which in Congress book, is a NON-BUSINESS DAY, so it would be counted as Jan. 6th
So, if you know anything about Congress, when a bill is sent to the president for signing he signs it and it becomes law. But if the bill sits on his desk without the president's signature WITHOUT HIS SIGNATURE for 10 days, the bill automatically becomes law .
Well they opted for Jan.5th hoping no one would notice.
But the bill had to become law before Jan. 6th because of the electoral college count on the 6th that certified Trump as president.
This bill was on his desk at the same time those 50 other bills were being signed on Christmas Eve. You remember one of them was that bill that Paris Hilton sponsored. Was she the distraction?
Also, all those drone stories --' was this a distraction so you would not do the math?
Chew on that for a while.
Posted on 3/7/25 at 1:45 pm to AggieHank86
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The question is whether it was authorized by the purported signatory.
If you can get past the 25th Amendment problem (which you cannot), your approach would be to assert that NO e-sig could EVER have been authorized by Biden, because he lacked the legal capacity to grant such authorization due to non compos mentis status.
... and here lies the quandary ...
The Social Security Fairness Act was a true law
It would be hell to pay if an e-signature made it illegal ...
Think of all those Congress people on retirement
Posted on 3/7/25 at 2:29 pm to AggieHank86
... so let's not stop here ...
Let's look at this signature business as it applies to the Social Security Fairness Act ...
It was signed by Biden on Sunday Jan. 5th
Now why is that?
Do you think they were splitting legal hairs?
Do you think the bill became law after 10 days, so they needed the theaterics of a desk , a pen, witnesses, media, and Biden waving to the crowd --- and maybe snacks afterwards
Do you think the legal team came forward and advised that this was the way to proceed in order to not be arrested for impersonating a government official?
Makes you wonder how much stuff has been pulled off in the long run.
This post was edited on 3/7/25 at 2:31 pm
Posted on 3/7/25 at 2:30 pm to Placekicker
Ever since all of the pardons.. I have been waiting for this!!!!!
Posted on 3/7/25 at 2:35 pm to bayou2
quote:Can you cite the statute on which you rely for this assertion, because (to be as kind as I can) I believe that you are mistaken.
the bill had to become law before Jan. 6th because of the electoral college count on the 6th that certified Trump as president.
Pretty sure that the outgoing POTUS has ALL of the powers of POTUS, until such time as the new POTUS is sworn into office.
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