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re: Cops shoot innocent man sleeping on couch

Posted on 3/21/23 at 7:55 am to
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/21/23 at 7:55 am to
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When the cops are wrong, they deserve to be punished just like the rest of us.


I think this is the issue. Cops aren’t punished “like the rest of us.”
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57815 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 7:56 am to
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Get it through your heads. Cops do not care about conservatives. Cops hate your 2nd amendment rights. They don't care if they kill or injure innocent people. Cops are not your friends. Stop defending them.



Unpopular opinion: If cops were as bad as you say, then you'd have a hell of a lot more stories than 1 every 4 months of a 1 cop being a shithead. In 2021, there were 661,000 police officers in America. Surely if they were the thugs you thought they were, we'd have way more incidents, would we not?
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
6563 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 7:59 am to
I agree that cases where cops do something absolutely wrong and it gets buried or they get off on a technicality, that's unacceptable. I'm just willing to look at both sides of the coin.


The justice system itself should really be the thing that's looked at. I can't imagine being a cop and risk my life collaring a violent criminal shithead only for a woke DA to let them go.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57815 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 7:59 am to
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Every cop is part of an evil system, though.




Law enforcement is an evil system? You know, funding for law enforcement has went down dramatically due to the marxist "defund the police" movement. And ain't it the darndest thing, crime has simultaneously gone up. Weird.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475992 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 8:00 am to
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I think this is the issue. Cops aren’t punished “like the rest of us.”


They aren't even investigated like the rest of us
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475992 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 8:02 am to
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If cops were as bad as you say, then you'd have a hell of a lot more stories than 1 every 4 months of a 1 cop being a shithead. In

I get at least 1 case every 4 months with an LEO being a shite head, and I don't have a high volume of cases.

People have made bootlicking such a strong part of certain population's culture that it takes a HUGE event to even get them to discuss it (and typically they will still defend the cops. Hell, you had them defending cops in that LEO murder in Memphis a few months ago on this board)
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
59080 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 8:02 am to
I heard this guy kept posting about how he lost his guns in a boating accident online

News flash folks: the police are going to take your guns but when you post corny played out jokes you earn your way to the front of the line
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28034 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 8:03 am to
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Nobody argues that every cop is evil.


Nobody except the OP.

I would amend his statement to "you have no idea if the cop you're dealing with is crooked." At one time they had the benefit of the doubt in questionable situations, and that time is long gone for me. I really don't have interactions with them, but when I read a story I don't start off with any assumptions about the cop's honesty any more than I do the perp's.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 8:05 am to
Cops aren’t your friends, they’re evil.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
59080 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 8:05 am to
Fact of the matter is that when the police officer states that he smells marijuana it’s his right to search and seize you and when you law breakers fight back you deserve to get shafted by the long arm of the law
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475992 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 8:06 am to
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Law enforcement is an evil system?

It's become a Police State, so yes.

See: what is happening to Trump for one example.

quote:

You know, funding for law enforcement has went down dramatically due to the marxist "defund the police" movement. And ain't it the darndest thing, crime has simultaneously gone up. Weird.

Show me where I am saying defund the police

We need fewer LEO with much higher qualifications, more rigorous training, and a better morality and we should pay those people much more than LEO make today. We also need to develop a system of LEO funding that isn't largely based in fining drivers for petty traffic offenses (this creates a terrible incentive that is in many ways the root of LEO cultural rot).

We need to develop a system of policing that is more efficient with fewer intrusions into the lives of citizens.
Posted by Dex Morgan
Member since Nov 2022
3227 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 8:07 am to
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Generalize much? I know quite a few and this is wholeheartedly the opposite of each and every one of them. You’re no better than the cooks on the left who take one incident of a bad cop and label the entire community of cops accordingly. frick off dude


No. You frick off. This happens routinely now. It isn't "just a few". I guarantee your friends enforced unconstitutional covid mandates at the very least. You must be so proud. I find it hilarious that it's a blue (liberal) line that they protect. That's the side they definitely do the bidding for.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57815 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 8:08 am to
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People have made bootlicking


So you're simple? People can support the LEO without being "bootlickers", you know that, right? The fact remains, fewer law enforcement officers, higher crime. Look at every major city in America for examples.
This post was edited on 3/21/23 at 8:08 am
Posted by Tmo Sabe
GA
Member since Mar 2022
978 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 8:08 am to
That's just a normal Monday in America.
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
13158 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 8:10 am to
Imagine if this were a black man
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
59080 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 8:10 am to
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The fact remains, fewer law enforcement officers, higher crime.

It’s not crime when it’s two thugs taking each other out. That’s why law enforcement officers have to look for new crimes to enforce that produce revenue like traffic tickets and gun confiscation
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475992 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 8:13 am to
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The fact remains, fewer law enforcement officers, higher crime.

This was not true for about 30 years in a row, and yes, we are having an uptick now. The question is if this is a new trend or just a statistical outlier. It's only been about 2 years.

The economic crises of 2008, 2020, and now 2022 are also a major factor.

I mean if we enacted Sharia Law, I'm sure crime would go down (some posters on here opine for this at times). Is that good? Beneficial?
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
6563 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 8:14 am to
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So you're simple? People can support the LEO without being "bootlickers", you know that, right? The fact remains, fewer law enforcement officers, higher crime. Look at every major city in America for examples.



It's not one or the other, we need lots of well trained and accountable police officers in our cities in particular. We should support a well funded and well trained LEO community. Unfortunately as I referenced earlier, so many folks already have their lines in the sand (bootlicker, Marxist) that there isn't much productive dialogue to be done.
Posted by Pechon
unperson
Member since Oct 2011
7748 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 8:14 am to
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Cops claiming an NRA sticker on a truck was justification for the wrongful raid.


Well, they're getting bold about being chickenshit so its progress I suppose.

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Get it through your heads. Cops do not care about conservatives. Cops hate your 2nd amendment rights


Remember children: Your government hates you.
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
13090 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 8:14 am to
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just like any other large group of people. In fact, I’m sure of it.


So, who's the better half?

The right or left and their intentions.
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