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Cop who was arrested in the death of Rayshard Brooks who DA said was witness for the State

Posted on 6/23/20 at 9:03 am
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
21801 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 9:03 am
Has spoken today:
One of the Atlanta police officers charged in the death of Rayshard Brooks would not have done anything differently that night, he said in an interview with The Atlanta Journal-Constitution.
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"At the end of the day, someone lost their life. To me, it's heartbreaking no matter the circumstances, no matter what," Brosnan, 26, said. "When anybody dies truly is something you never want to see happen, to have happen. I can't imagine what a family would go through."


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"I feel like my side wasn't really heard and given the short timeframe it's hard for anybody to understand all the facts and the whole circumstances around it," the officer said in the newspaper interview. "That being said, I'm still willing to cooperate."


Brosnan also was surprised that Howard in the news conference announcing the charges said he would be a prosecution witness and testify against the other officer:
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Brosnan has not made such an agreement, his lawyer, Don Samuel said


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"I just looked at it like, he could have just said I'm doing the right thing -- I'm talking," Brosnan said. "But it just seemed like it was more important to make it political than it was to get to the truth of the matter and get to the real facts of it. ... Some person lost their life. It's not something to make political."


After the incident, Brosnan was taken to Grady Memorial Hospital where doctors determined he’d suffered a concussion. Brosnan said after his head slammed to the pavement, the concussion left him feeling disoriented and terrified.


LINK


This post was edited on 6/23/20 at 9:05 am
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 9:04 am to
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Some person lost their life. It's not something to make political.
Posted by DeafVallyBatnR
Member since Sep 2004
16834 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 9:12 am to
So why us the police officer who shot Brooks more concerned about Brooks blood on him than whether Brooks was alive. In the video he was not concerned until he found out he was going to do his report at the homicide office. At that point he acts like he does not know why and then becomes concerned about Brooks in the video.

Not saying shooting was not justified. What I am saying is the video shot a lack of humanity within the Police department as if it's a normal thing to shot a human being.
Posted by LSUMIKE70
Seminole Texas
Member since Feb 2020
400 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 9:13 am to
his nickname is crawfish
Posted by ChanceOfRainIsNever
Far from Louisiana
Member since Oct 2016
2125 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 9:17 am to
quote:

So why us the police officer who shot Brooks more concerned about Brooks blood on him than whether Brooks was alive. In the video he was not concerned until he found out he was going to do his report at the homicide office. At that point he acts like he does not know why and then becomes concerned about Brooks in the video. Not saying shooting was not justified. What I am saying is the video shot a lack of humanity within the Police department as if it's a normal thing to shot a human being.


Maybe because he was in shock that he just shot somebody. How would you react? What would you do? That cops shoes aren’t a pair that I wanna be in
Posted by LSUJML
BR
Member since May 2008
45576 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 9:17 am to
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What I am saying is the video shot a lack of humanity within the Police department as if it's a normal thing to shot a human being.


I think I figured out what you’re trying to say

Have you ever wrestled with a grown man over a weapon then killed him?
Have you ever killed someone?

I haven’t so I’m not going to judge someone for their immediate actions of what I guess would be shock.
It’s not as if he went & grabbed a drink & laughed.
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
68462 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 9:19 am to
Well considering brooks resisted arrest and stole a taser which puts the officers lives in danger, they shouldn’t feel remorse.

I saw a dumbass who didn’t deserve to die yet had he not resisted arrest it may not have happened

I saw cops not reading this guy his Miranda rights (if the video has not been edited) if video was edited I’m assuming his rights were read. I also saw two poorly trained cops when it pertains to restraints and takedowns

It’s a shite show all around
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23189 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 9:20 am to
quote:

Not saying shooting was not justified. What I am saying is the video shot a lack of humanity within the Police department as if it's a normal thing to shot a human being.


I’m not going to read into how someone is behaving after such a traumatic experience where your adrenaline is still high.

His heart rate looks very high.

The charging of this officer is a poverty
This post was edited on 6/23/20 at 9:21 am
Posted by Jspaspa3303
Member since Jun 2020
2387 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 9:24 am to
I would not be cooperating with anyone . Nothing was done wrong , by him or the other officer. The DA abused his power and used these guys as a political pawn for his bid to get re-elected . I sure hope this DA, and the whole city of Atlanta is sued over this abuse of power .
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123921 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 9:28 am to
quote:

So why us the police officer who shot Brooks more concerned about Brooks blood on him than whether Brooks was alive
Link?

BTW a word of advise, if you get a stranger's blood all over you, you should be concerned about it as well. Just something you should be aware of. The more salient point is how the blood got on him . . . i.e., during CPR?
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
7575 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 9:29 am to
Can't imagine being in the situation he was in and how I would respond. You don't know either.

What we do know, is several officers were asking him if he was ok after the shooting, and the tone of their questions led me to believe he was showing signs of emotional distress.

Posted by 20 ton
BR
Member since Aug 2013
795 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 9:33 am to
I haven’t seen the video you’re talking about but with all the HIV precautions and training they deal with,cleaning someone else’s blood is important. In those situations protocols say to treat ALL blood as if infectious.

Once the EMS take over, cleaning up the blood would be next priority.

Adrenaline in these situations can give you distorted views in the comfort of hind sight.
This post was edited on 6/23/20 at 9:58 am
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
30782 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 9:37 am to
quote:

So why us the police officer who shot Brooks more concerned about Brooks blood on him than whether Brooks was alive.


I guess you missed that whole shut down the country pandemic thing.
Posted by SOKAL
Member since May 2018
4124 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 9:43 am to
So basically, "I have no idea what the guy was thinking, but I am pretty sure I can assign a thought crime to him."

Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26776 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 9:47 am to
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lack of humanity


Is this illegal?

Certainly worthy of criticism and maybe loss of job, but not a crime.

I would imagine your humanity is one of the first things you lose in that line of work.
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 9:53 am to
I would say a change in venue will probably happen as the DA was trying to poison the jury pool with things he knew were lies.
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
20116 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 10:03 am to
quote:

Well considering brooks resisted arrest and stole a taser which puts the officers lives in danger, they shouldn’t feel remorse.

I saw a dumbass who didn’t deserve to die yet had he not resisted arrest it may not have happened

I saw cops not reading this guy his Miranda rights (if the video has not been edited) if video was edited I’m assuming his rights were read. I also saw two poorly trained cops when it pertains to restraints and takedowns

It’s a shite show all around


You clearly don’t know what you’re talking about.

Are you saying the shooting was justified or not?

What does Miranda have to do with anything? They did a field sobriety test and a breathalyzer on the guy. They didn’t need to use his statements.

Their ground technique wasn’t great, but that is not unusual, unfortunately. Cops aren’t given nearly enough training in that area, unless they take an interest in outside training such as MMA, etc.
This post was edited on 6/23/20 at 10:06 am
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
18905 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 10:43 am to
quote:

I saw cops not reading this guy his Miranda rights (if the video has not been edited) if video was edited I’m assuming his rights were read. I also saw two poorly trained cops when it pertains to restraints and takedowns


I am trying to decide if you are a troll or ignorant.

Troll answer is GFY.

Ignorant answer is that, in a field situation, you aren't required to Mirandize until you suspect a crime has been committed and/or the person is in custody. What is known as a Custodial Interrogation. Think about it, if you call the police to a run of the mill traffic accident or a barking dog call, they don't get out and Mirandize everyone at the scene. It is only AFTER they suspect or determine a crime may have been committed and that they are going to possibly arrest someone that Miranda becomes necessary.

In this case, they performed a Field Sobriety Test and, suspecting that BROOKS was intoxicated, they attempted to place him into custody. At which time they would have read him his Miranda Rights. The problem is they never got to that point because he started fighting. The other thing is that, especially in situations with an inebriated person, you don't Mirandize them until they are handcuffed. Because when you say the famous "You have the right to remain silent..." people know they are going to jail and those so inclined to do so want to fight. They will generally hold off on fighting until the handcuffs are out or the rights are read because they are holding out hope they are going to get away without an arrest.

The DA knows this and I can't fathom the reason that he raised this issue at the press conference because, even for a political hack, he knew that anyone that knows even a little about the law knew that was a stupid thing to say.
Posted by RoyalAir
Detroit
Member since Dec 2012
5888 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 12:01 pm to
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 The other thing is that, especially in situations with an inebriated person, you don't Mirandize them until they are handcuffed. Because when you say the famous "You have the right to remain silent..." people know they are going to jail and those so inclined to do so want to fight.


I've been arrested exactly once, and this is how it went down. I was cuffed before I was Mirandized, but knew I was arrested as soon as he asked me to turn around and place hands behind my back. I didn't think anything of it.
Posted by Jack Bauers HnK
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
5713 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 12:16 pm to
Being Mirandized is only necessary to be able to use his responses to questioning against him. If they don’t ask him any questions or care whether they can use his responses at trial, they don’t ever have to read him his rights. The judge will advise him of his rights at arraignment.
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