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re: Conversation with a secular/agnostic friend about what has happened in America
Posted on 11/10/26 at 11:36 am to burger bearcat
Posted on 11/10/26 at 11:36 am to burger bearcat
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He is right wing and conservative but just not religious at all. Baptized Catholic but hasn’t practiced faith in any meaningful way his entire adult life
Did he grow up in Vatican II Era?
If he was born before that he would have been raised by nuns who put "The Fear of God" into practice.
This is not a question of a single faith, but of the corruption of all faith.
Pre Vatican II
You had shame, now we embrace shame
You had physical punishment, now we coddle
If you got pregnant, you had the kid, and orphanages to raise them
We prosecuted for FALSE NEWS "Tho shall not bear false witness"
We has "Sunday go to Meeting", now we go causal to a place of worship
We were a melting pot, now we are all special snowflakesWe had a proper education, now we are taught to do well on tests, no common sense
FWIW, Ben Franlin modeled much of American politics / government on the 7 Nations of the New World, but sold it using Democracy and Republic
Posted on 11/10/26 at 11:37 am to KiwiHead
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I had no idea that Jesus himself wrote a Gospel?
Well, that's your ignorance again.
"Gospel" means "good news" as well as being the titles of four historical books written about the life of Christ.
He was obviously using the first meaning, not the second. As in, "The good news of Jesus Christ."
You might want to study up a little before wading out into these waters, shallow though they may be.
This post was edited on 11/10/26 at 11:40 am
Posted on 11/10/26 at 11:39 am to burger bearcat
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you are referencing how some of the elected “Republican” leaders have not lived up to the standards we would like to uphold
No, I don't think that's what he's saying.
He probably won't answer my question, so we may never know for sure, but I don't think that's who he is referring to.
I could be wrong.
Posted on 11/10/26 at 11:48 am to jmarto1
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Maybe the latter being the bigger influence but people who are devout use positions of power to force their beliefs on the populace
That's not true. Forcing one's beliefs on the populace is not a Christian "problem". Forcing one's beliefs on the populace is a POLITICIAN problem. Take the alphabet crowd. There isn't a more in your face outside of the race pimps than them and forcing conformity and acceptance on the populace than those groups and those groups are not Christian.
Posted on 11/10/26 at 12:02 pm to bayoubengals88
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He is, partially. If you can't see this you may be the one who needs more education.
He's certainly wrong on some key issues, but by and large, his general message aligns with the Biblical narrative of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
All of this is completely false.
Posted on 11/10/26 at 12:03 pm to KiwiHead
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I had no idea that Jesus himself wrote a Gospel? Might be one that Councils of Hippo and later , Carthage decided weren't up to snuff....questionable authorship.....not consistent with overall church dogma.
It's amazing how much leftist discourse is just pretending not to know things.
Posted on 11/10/26 at 12:05 pm to KiwiHead
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I had no idea that Jesus himself wrote a Gospel?
Aww. Did you try to own me for using the exact same words of the other poster? Poor bankrupt Kiwi.
Posted on 11/10/26 at 12:07 pm to Scottysd20
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The issue is that you are all hypocrites
You know me?
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You don’t have any actual values
I actually do. I have morals too.
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You would vote for Satan if could beat Democrats
Wut? Baw, the Dems are Satan j/k.
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So I don’t necessarily have anything against Christian values. I have something against FAKE Christian values utilized by American conservatives to get elected.
Oh, I get it. You are the arbiter of Christian values. The gatekeeper as it were.
Thank you for your service
Posted on 11/10/26 at 12:09 pm to burger bearcat
Somewhere along the line accountability, responsibility, and respect are no longer expected nor encouraged of society.
This just leads us down a path of destruction and religion is a victim of this
This just leads us down a path of destruction and religion is a victim of this
Posted on 11/10/26 at 12:15 pm to jmarto1
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you are correct but the devout do it to a higher degree
Jamie Baskin is devout?
Who knew?
Posted on 11/10/26 at 12:37 pm to burger bearcat
Bockenforde dilemma
Posted on 11/10/26 at 12:38 pm to jmarto1
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you are correct but the devout do it to a higher degree
You got a link for this?
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