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re: Contact Tracing

Posted on 5/8/20 at 4:37 pm to
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
88946 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 4:37 pm to
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Braxton tests positive for Covid. Braxton has been in contact with Jayden, Brayden, Bryson, and Jaxton. Jayden has been in contact with Beau, Nash
Sucks they canceled the LLWS
Posted by Tigerroc
Member since Jun 2017
285 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 5:17 pm to
You got it right!!
Posted by cajuncarguy
On the road...Again!
Member since Jun 2013
3135 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 5:29 pm to
My blue tooth fell out.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
40010 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 5:33 pm to
Don’t answer your phone if you don’t know the number.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11528 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 5:37 pm to
2nd degree contacts and beyond aren't recommended to isolate, so only your first 5 are only the shelf.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 6:46 pm to
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It's for plaintiffs lawyers to be able to gin up rediculous lawsuits on the grounds that such n such business was negligent causing their client to contract covid


I wish they'd pushed through liability protections in the first relief bill.

It's going to be a mess without it. Businesses will be obliged to go crazy, trying to ensure zero risk.
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
24839 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 6:58 pm to
Only really is effective when there are a small number of cases and you can stop something before it gets going. At this point probably not as useful.
Posted by Backinthe615
Member since Nov 2011
6871 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 7:46 pm to
Germans as bratwurst, but this guy (who is probably an actual liberal) calls what's happening today play by play.

Harry Vox 2014
Posted by longwayfromLA
NYC
Member since Nov 2007
3331 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 8:00 pm to
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Contact Tracing was developed in part by Dr. Anthony Fauci and the Bill Gates foundation. It is currently being taught as part of Stem and PLTW programs in schools that are certified to teach the programs.


In reality, contact tracing has been outbreak containment 101 since before Fauci and Gates were born.
This post was edited on 5/8/20 at 8:08 pm
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
86285 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 8:13 pm to
haha i enjoyed that other than paul. And that he said pelosi was a duplicitous piece of shite, the worst.

Damn I watched the one from 2014 and holee shite. Vox read a narrative that was written in 2010 and everything he said is happening now. fricking crazy.

2014 Harry Vox
This post was edited on 5/8/20 at 8:32 pm
Posted by YF12
Ottobaan
Member since Nov 2019
4451 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 8:15 pm to
I would just lie as much as possible to them so they waste immense amount of time running in circles

frick them
Posted by Thunder
Western by God Vernon Parish
Member since Mar 2006
2421 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 8:36 pm to
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Can someone please explain to me why contact tracing matters.

Sure...... government workers just grew 700 plus jobs while the private sector is shutout along with businesses failing..... win win for the democrat governor and the Democrat population of Louisiana..... red state my fricking arse
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 12:22 pm to
Can somebody tell me how this is legal? I thought that I had rights to my privacy.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 12:28 pm to
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Contact tracing is a proven public health tool that has been used for years.
On a voluntary basis. You left out that major part.

I think a major lawsuit will come out of this.
Posted by longwayfromLA
NYC
Member since Nov 2007
3331 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 12:32 pm to
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Contact Tracing
quote:
Contact tracing is a proven public health tool that has been used for years.
On a voluntary basis. You left out that major part.

I think a major lawsuit will come out of this.



What would be the suit? Which part do you believe is non-voluntary? Or perhaps I should ask. How do you think contact tracing has historically worked in the US?
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 12:37 pm to
Because when an individual is sick and is treated by a doctor or hospital, he/she has rights to not disclose that info to anybody. That information is only between you and your doctor. You seriously don't think a good attorney will find a way to make a lawsuit behind this? Hell, I bet some of our local tv attorneys could come up with something.

quote:

How do you think contact tracing has historically worked in the US?

I don't know, ask the guy I was responding to. I was moreso just adding that if that was true, it was on a voluntary basis.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135699 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 12:47 pm to
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You're not going to force everyone to self quarantine because they may have come in contact with someone who was in contact with someone who may have been exposed. Why the frick does it matter.
Because you use it to guide testing. So you are not quarantining someone who may have been exposed. You are quarantining folks with CV19 infection.
This post was edited on 5/9/20 at 12:48 pm
Posted by longwayfromLA
NYC
Member since Nov 2007
3331 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 12:52 pm to
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Because when an individual is sick and is treated by a doctor or hospital, he/she has rights to not disclose that info to anybody. That information is only between you and your doctor. You seriously don't think a good attorney will find a way to make a lawsuit behind this? Hell, I bet some of our local tv attorneys could come up with something.


My understanding is that the contact tracing in the US is entirely voluntary. Indeed there is no existing mechanism to induce a person to disclose anyway. The way it works at its simplest, is the COVID+ person tells the tracer the people he's had sustained contact with and then that person just makes phone calls and asks the contacted to come in to get tested, thus starting the process over again. There is no compulsion anywhere in the process.


Now Korea has these apps that they put on phone to track you and id as positive and then let other people know a positive person is near if they have the same app. An app like that might run into HIPAA issues, though I've been surprised at how many regulations have fallen/been ignored in the hospital world in the last month or so.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 1:03 pm to
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... HIPAA issues, though I've been surprised at how many regulations have fallen/been ignored in the hospital world in the last month or so ...


Exactly what I'm talking about. There will be a lawsuit or two or three behind the loosening up of those HIPAA rights. The fact that a third party would know that you tested positive for Covid 19 is absolutely a violation.

This post was edited on 5/9/20 at 1:17 pm
Posted by longwayfromLA
NYC
Member since Nov 2007
3331 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 1:07 pm to
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Exactly what I'm talking about. There will be a lawsuit or two or three behind the loosening up of those HIPPA rights. The fact that a third party would know that you tested positive for Covid 19 is absolutely a violation.


On the one hand, I hear you. On the other, HIPAA is only semi-operative right now with respect to COVID. That's just facts. I am to understand that there as been some guidance offered that give us some cover on that point, but I haven't read it.

Anyway, I think for a person to participate in contact tracing they'd have to consent to certain disclosures. I think. They did this with HIV btw and that's way more sensitive. I figure they know there way around the law.
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