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re: Conservatives More Likely To Believe Conspiracy Theories

Posted on 12/14/25 at 12:33 am to
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
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Posted on 12/14/25 at 12:33 am to
Considering how often they turn out to be true, the headline should read;

Conservatives more likely to be correct
Posted by RohanGonzales
Member since Apr 2024
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Posted on 12/14/25 at 4:03 am to
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Conservatives More Likely To Believe Conspiracy Theories


because the ones describing things leftists do are a lot more likely to be true

Do you have any more stupid "headlines"?
Posted by CC
Galveztown
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 12/14/25 at 6:09 am to
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2020 was stolen. Not a conspiracy, a fact.
Methinks people confuse the definitions of conspiracy and theory.

A conspiracy is a secret plan by a group. A theory is a supposition intended to explain something.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
48139 posts
Posted on 12/14/25 at 7:12 am to
ack chu allee
Every major corruption by the democrats are always labeled as 'conspiracies' by democrats and their propaganda media and nothing is mentioned when they are uncovered.

Meanwhile, all the major accomplishments of the two trump tenures are treated as if they didn't exist and they expect all the disasters from the biden administration to be solved overnight or they become 'trump failures.'

We live in an Alice in Wonderland world
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10667 posts
Posted on 12/14/25 at 7:38 am to
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It HAS been proven to the satisfaction of the average Trumpist, because Trump said so.


Ed Zachery.

Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26945 posts
Posted on 12/14/25 at 7:45 am to
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Has it been proven that Democrats stole the 2020 Election?


Has it been proven that Nancy Pelosi uses her insider knowledge for her husband's stock trading?

"Prove" is entirely subjective. There's a lot of evidence that ballot stuffing occurred at a minimum. Whether or not that evidence is enough to give a person an opinion one way or another is entirely up to them. I don't know if you're saying this or not, but I do think the evidence is broad and substantial enough that "if you can't prove it that means it didn't happen" isn't an intellectually valid position.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 12/14/25 at 7:47 am to
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My point isn’t that the RW ecosystem is “always wrong.” It’s that the business model rewards spectacle and transgression more than calibration.



Just the RW ecosystem? All spectrums of political news reward spectacle and transgression.
Posted by Hognutz
Member since Sep 2018
2622 posts
Posted on 12/14/25 at 7:52 am to
Or Progressives/Libs are more likely to be gullible idots.
Posted by Hognutz
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 12/14/25 at 7:59 am to
If you believe the offical 9/11 narrative, you're hopeless.
We landed on the moon.
Not convinced on the Trump assassination attempt, yet.
The Kirk assassination leaves a lot of room for curiosity.
Chemical trails are documented, lmao. See Dane Wigington @ geoengineeringwatch org

It's only all or nothing in your mind.
This post was edited on 12/14/25 at 8:04 am
Posted by wallowinit
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 12/14/25 at 8:01 am to
Surely this has been noted in the comments that I haven’t read, but how many “conspiracy theories“ have become factual?
The answer is very many, especially one’s surrounding presidential elections.
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
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Posted on 12/14/25 at 8:04 am to
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how many “conspiracy theories“ have become factual?

The answer is very many, especially one’s surrounding presidential elections.


But...but....you "k00k!" How dare you notice the obvious and in your face FFs, hoaxes, dummie-elections and psy-ops!

Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
2845 posts
Posted on 12/14/25 at 8:04 am to
Good list. But you missed one.

;-)
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10667 posts
Posted on 12/14/25 at 8:13 am to
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"Prove" is entirely subjective. There's a lot of evidence that ballot stuffing occurred at a minimum. Whether or not that evidence is enough to give a person an opinion one way or another is entirely up to them. I don't know if you're saying this or not, but I do think the evidence is broad and substantial enough that "if you can't prove it that means it didn't happen" isn't an intellectually valid position.


First of all, "prove" is not entirely subjective. It may have an element of subjectivity, but if it was entirely subjective then it would be a meaningless statement, just like relativistic morality claims are. Basically that's what that statement does: it makes the post-modern claim that truth (proof) is entirely up to the individual.

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I don't know if you're saying this or not, but I do think the evidence is broad and substantial enough that "if you can't prove it that means it didn't happen" isn't an intellectually valid position.


Well that depends, doesn't it? It depends on why you can't prove any given claim, doesn't it? Especially if you're operating on the first statement you made above, the premise that proof is entirely subjective. Under that premise you could just be Matt Dillahunty and say, "I remain unconvinced" no mater what evidence is presented, and no one would be able to tell you that you were being unreasonable for holding that position.

But no, I'm not saying that. The guy I was responding to said every conspiracy theory floated has been proven to be true. That's not remotely the case. Chemtrials, the government wants to chip everyone, Biden is allowing illegals in so that he can arm them against American citizens and subdue the population, and on, and on, and on...

I picked that example because so many people say things like, "81 Million votes, that right there proves right there that it was stolen." No, it doesn't prove anything of the kind.

My position is that the Democrats cheated, and that's a fact. They cheated by having the Green Party removed from the swing states that Trump "flipped" in 2016 (He didn't really flip them. What happened is that about twice the percentage of voters who normally would voted for Jill Stein on the Democratic side b/c Hillary is such a nasty hag. And that was the margin of victory. Trump won in 2016 b/c of the number of votes Jill Stein got in 3-4 states...let that sink in. Democrats noticed this, of course, and cheated accordingly), and by way of the Hunter Biden laptop story burial and denial, which the media was fully complicit in. We now know due to polling that 1 in 4 voters in swing states from 2016 say they would have changed their votes had they known.

That's enough for me to know for a fact that they cheated.

But that's not what the average TD poster means when that is said. The average poster here doesn't even know about the Jill Stein stuff.

I know there's the 2000 Mules movie and various other video that shows ballot stuffing, but there's no way to know how many votes we're talking about and whether those votes made the difference in any given state.

Remember, "Democrats cheating," and "Democrats stole the election" are two different claims.

Personally, I'm not convinced that it did make a difference in any state except maybe Georgia. And I base that on having looked up the number of votes cast in those states and comparing them with the number of votes cast in 2016, and adjusting for the fact that Jill Stein was no longer on the ballot in the states that Democrats got her kicked off in. The only state in which the numbers looked significantly off in that comparison was Georgia. Every other one was what you would expect. If there had been massive ballot stuffing and that's it, you would have seen significantly larger total votes cast.

Not to mention the video that was posted here 2-3 weeks ago here claiming that the election was stolen, but not by way of manufacturing more Democratic votes, by way of suppressing Republican votes. First time I had heard that theory, and the election was five years ago now.

So maybe I should have chosen chemtrails or the theory that Biden was actually dead and the guy who bumbled around the WH was a lookalike.

Because my point really wasn't about the election, it was about the claim that all conspiracy theories have been proven true.

And anyway, Trump says the proof is coming any day now.



This post was edited on 12/14/25 at 8:15 am
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
2845 posts
Posted on 12/14/25 at 8:22 am to
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It [CT-beliefs] can become an ideology and like all ideologies, it's prone to oversimplifying the world.


The same can be said of those who's first and only instinct is to fall in line by default and believe 100% in institutional-gubmint-mockingbird versions of "news", accounts and narratives. Folks who don't subscribe to this ideology know what they see, hear or sense recognize something is "off". Some call this Pattern "Recognition".

Is it possible most people within your sphere of beliefs just find it easier and less disruptive to the psyche to "oversimplify the world" and accept "The world of which we've been presented"? ('The Truman Show.) Or, "Red Pill, Blue Pill"? (The Matrix).

Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
2845 posts
Posted on 12/14/25 at 8:41 am to
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I do think the evidence is broad and substantial enough that "if you can't prove it that means it didn't happen" isn't an intellectually valid position.


Good point.

There is a point where the scope of "evidence" presented is considered overwhelming enough to conclude reasonable "proof".
Posted by Hognutz
Member since Sep 2018
2622 posts
Posted on 12/14/25 at 8:54 am to
Oh' sht, sorry, earth is an oblate spheroid.
Posted by Great Plains Drifter
Flyover, U.S.A.
Member since Jul 2019
8786 posts
Posted on 12/14/25 at 9:01 am to
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Conservatives More Likely To Believe Conspiracy Theories


Is this allegation courtesy of the same folks who believe DJT likes to be peed on by Russian hookers when he’s not busy ushering in the Fourth Reich?
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59232 posts
Posted on 12/14/25 at 9:12 am to
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Just the RW ecosystem? All spectrums of political news reward spectacle and transgression.


LW pushes moral superiority and sanctimony more, imo.
Posted by Audustxx
Member since Jul 2022
2264 posts
Posted on 12/14/25 at 9:22 am to
Science deniers is my favorite. Settled science they claim. Blood letting was once settled science
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