- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Coaching Changes
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Conservatives Go to War — Against Each Other — Over School Vouchers
Posted on 7/6/24 at 1:16 pm to LSU Grad 2021
Posted on 7/6/24 at 1:16 pm to LSU Grad 2021
For Republicans, this comes down to is who's taking NEA money and who cares about further indoctrination of our children.
Which side are you on?
Which side are you on?
0
Posted on 7/6/24 at 1:16 pm to Jake88
Who cares what you think?
You’re not a conservative.
You’re not a conservative.
Posted on 7/6/24 at 1:18 pm to the808bass
quote:
You’re not a conservative
Farther to the right than 98% of this board. But, ok, sure. Posted on 7/6/24 at 1:19 pm to Jake88
Ok.
Posted on 7/6/24 at 1:24 pm to Jake88
quote:
How is being moved to a nice neighborhood from the ghetto different since the money is going to get spent?
What are you trying to say here?
quote:
The potential voucher recipients currently get what they pay for a public education. Others choose to sacrifice to provide their kids a private education. They get what they pay for.
Why would a taxpayer have a problem with paying less and getting more?
Posted on 7/6/24 at 1:32 pm to LSU Grad 2021
As much as you want to believe that Conservatives are divided... we are ALL in this horror shite show together and that is simply not the case. MAGA is very united
Posted on 7/6/24 at 1:34 pm to LSU Grad 2021
Oh look "conservatives" are just dumbarses who would have thunk it
Posted on 7/6/24 at 1:40 pm to David_DJS
quote:This has nothing to do with race. Where I am it's most likely dysfunctional white familes or those that could pay for a private education but chose to buy that boat or luxury car instead. Giving dysfunctional people dollars to access what others pay for out of pocket only ruins the nicer areas. Public schools are only as good as the students who attend them. When students care, the school does well. When they don't the school does poorly. You can see that in the cities and out in the sticks. Why should spreading out dysfunction be supported by functioning systems?
What are you trying to say here?
quote:Well, they aren't going to pay less. Those dollars aren't actually going to be withdrawn from the public schools 1:1. Additionally, many of those taxpayers already pay for their kids' private education. Do they want their kid, for whom they are paying full freight, sitting next to a kid whose parents get 75% off? We also have seen what government dollars do to tuition. If the loose federal student loans' impact on college tuition does not give pause then you don't actually care. Then there are the strings that inevitably come with government dollars. La has a habit of electing democrat governors and is loaded with RINOs in the legislature. Strings will follow.
Why would a taxpayer have a problem with paying less and getting more?
Posted on 7/6/24 at 1:47 pm to LSU Grad 2021
Anything the government runs sucks - and sucks bad.
Go to the DMV and then go to a privately ran DMV store.
Government employees suck.
They may not start out sucking, but they learn to suck.
Go to the DMV and then go to a privately ran DMV store.
Government employees suck.
They may not start out sucking, but they learn to suck.
Posted on 7/6/24 at 1:57 pm to LSU Grad 2021
The government schools have failed. They are bloated, dangerous, incompetent and inefficient. They are a national disgrace. Puffs like you who defend a failed status quo that deprives children of quality choices aren’t just wrong, you are an actual villain. You are the bad guy in the story.
Posted on 7/6/24 at 2:12 pm to Lsupimp
^This x 1,000
The dems know school choice is needed but cannot risk upsetting the teachers unions who fund their campaigns. Conservatives aren’t divided on this issue but the dems are.
The dems know school choice is needed but cannot risk upsetting the teachers unions who fund their campaigns. Conservatives aren’t divided on this issue but the dems are.
Posted on 7/6/24 at 2:15 pm to LSU Grad 2021
Rural conservatives don’t really like seeing their tax money help rich city kids go to private school.
They are smart enough to see through the accounting tricks and wordsmithing that attempt to make it not seem as such.
They are smart enough to see through the accounting tricks and wordsmithing that attempt to make it not seem as such.
Posted on 7/6/24 at 2:15 pm to David_DJS
quote:
What are you trying to say here?
Putting your kids in private schools is a way to protect them from the dregs of society, the vouchers could destroy that protection.
This a quote from the Tennesseean website:
quote:
Gov. Bill Lee has proposed a statewide taxpayer-funded school voucher program. If approved, it would eventually allow any student, regardless of family income or location, to attend a private school of their choice and use a scholarship funded with state dollars to help do so.
Posted on 7/6/24 at 2:17 pm to TejasHorn
quote:
Rural conservatives don’t really like seeing their tax money help rich city kids go to private school.
Rural conservatives also detest inner city public school systems that produce generations of illiterate students who grow up to become career criminals.
Posted on 7/6/24 at 2:25 pm to Jake88
quote:
This has nothing to do with race.
It didn't occur to me you were making a point about race. What you posted didn't make sense, so I asked what you meant.
quote:
Where I am it's most likely dysfunctional white familes or those that could pay for a private education but chose to buy that boat or luxury car instead. Giving dysfunctional people dollars to access what others pay for out of pocket only ruins the nicer areas.
Are vouchers means-tested? They're not where I am.
quote:
Well, they aren't going to pay less. Those dollars aren't actually going to be withdrawn from the public schools 1:1. Additionally, many of those taxpayers already pay for their kids' private education. Do they want their kid, for whom they are paying full freight, sitting next to a kid whose parents get 75% off?
Okay, where you're talking about - must be a means-tested voucher program. In Arizona, there's a public stipend that follows the student around, whether he/she goes to public or private school.
quote:
We also have seen what government dollars do to tuition.
If private schools just hike tuition, all of your worries go away and the program will just be an entitlement for the families that can pay something significant out of pocket.
Posted on 7/6/24 at 2:27 pm to Bestbank Tiger
quote:
the argument against is it would be an entitlement program.
Its not really an entitlement if you pay for it. Same as Medicare or SS.
The biggest chunk of property taxes goes to schools and I get nothing for it.
Posted on 7/6/24 at 2:27 pm to oldhickory1812
quote:
Putting your kids in private schools is a way to protect them from the dregs of society, the vouchers could destroy that protection.
Then just hike tuition to the point the dregs can't afford to go to the school.
That wasn't hard to figure out.
Posted on 7/6/24 at 2:28 pm to oldhickory1812
quote:
Putting your kids in private schools is a way to protect them from the dregs of society, the vouchers could destroy that protection.
Private schools can expel shite kids a whole lot easier than public
Posted on 7/6/24 at 2:31 pm to Turbeauxdog
Give me the data that supports this.
Posted on 7/6/24 at 2:38 pm to David_DJS
quote:Nothing is final yet, but lower incomes get more dollars.
Are vouchers means-tested? They're not where I am
quote:What about the kids whose parents sacrifice and struggle to make the payments now? They risk getting priced out.
If private schools just hike tuition, all of your worries go away and the program will just be an entitlement for the families that can pay something significant out of pocket
Page 2 of 4
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News