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re: Congress Has Become Totally Irrelevant

Posted on 4/27/26 at 1:17 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 4/27/26 at 1:17 pm to
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Tell me what this looks like in your mind's eye. Everyone moves out of Memphis and no one moves in?

For every person who moves out, someone moves in.


That doesn't mean the people moving in are qualified.

There is a reason these urban centers of GDP production and jobs are mainly DEM and educated.

Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
41278 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 1:19 pm to
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mainly DEM and educated.


Posted by RohanGonzales
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Posted on 4/27/26 at 1:21 pm to
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There is a reason these urban centers of GDP production and jobs are mainly DEM and educated.


You disingenuous fricking prick
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/27/26 at 1:49 pm to
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You disingenuous fricking prick




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Formal educational attainment in rural (nonmetropolitan) America has grown over time, but the attainment gap between rural and urban (metropolitan) areas persists. From 2000 to 2023, the share of adults ages 25 and older with a bachelor’s degree or higher increased in rural areas from 14.9 to 23 percent. In the same time span, the share of adults in urban areas with a bachelor’s degree or higher increased from 26.3 to 38.3 percent, widening the rural-urban gap from 11.4 to 15.3 percentage points in these two reference periods. This chart appears in the USDA, Economic Research Service topic page Rural Education, published in September 2025.


Educational attainment in rural America rises, but urban areas widen the degree gap


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Yes, urban areas in the United States are significantly more likely to lean Democratic, while rural areas trend strongly Republican. This urban-rural divide has intensified over the past two decades, with city dwellers favoring liberal, progressive policies, while rural residents often favor conservative, traditionalist values.






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Cities account for 90.8% of the U.S. GDP, according to the 2025 Metro Economies Report. The U.S. Conference of Mayors released the report, which S&P Global Market Intelligence prepared, at its annual meeting in June. The report found that cities account for 89.5% of personal income, 92.1% of wages and salaries, 88.2% of employment, 90.3% of employment change and 86.4% of population. The gross metro product of the top 10 metro areas ($9.67 trillion) exceeds the output of 37 states ($9.45 trillion), the report states. In 37 states, metro areas contribute more than 80% of the state GDP.


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What's disingenuous about this comment, "There is a reason these urban centers of GDP production and jobs are mainly DEM and educated," given the data?

Urban areas are:

1. Disproportionate GDP production hubs
2. More educated
3. More DEM
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
68768 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 3:19 pm to
My resonse was appropriate. If Congress isn't representing the "people",

thepeople will show up in November and make some changes.
Posted by FlyDownTheField83
Auburn AL
Member since Dec 2021
1603 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 3:30 pm to
You have a point, but your desire to troll may be seen by your calling out SS/Medicare.

Why not advocate for completely shutting down the cancer that is USAID? Why not turn off farm subsidies? Why not eliminate the federal reserve? Why not give everyone in the Dept of Education two weeks notice? (But I do agree with wiping out Medicare, go for it)

The problem is a political will is lacking to balance the budget….
Posted by FlyDownTheField83
Auburn AL
Member since Dec 2021
1603 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 3:33 pm to
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…mainly Dem and educated


You just cannot help yourself can you?

Having a degree in transgender studies and their effect on multi-culture bias is not educated,……it is indoctrinated.
This post was edited on 4/27/26 at 3:34 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/27/26 at 3:38 pm to
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Why not advocate for completely shutting down the cancer that is USAID? Why not turn off farm subsidies?

Both are drops in the bucket. Low-hanging fruit typically referenced for nothing more than partisan purposes.



TOTAL discretionary is $1.8T (that includes defense)


The deficit was about $1.9T. You could eliminate all discretionary spending and we'd still be running a deficit.

Farm subsidies are like 0.02-0.03T

USAID is something like 0.022 T
This post was edited on 4/27/26 at 3:44 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 4/27/26 at 3:48 pm to
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thepeople will show up in November and make some changes.
One of them showed up early, at the WHCD
This post was edited on 4/27/26 at 3:49 pm
Posted by FlyDownTheField83
Auburn AL
Member since Dec 2021
1603 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 4:15 pm to
The problem with talking about the government spending is that people let their agendas affect what they say and how they say it….

For example, people that want to decry Social Security typically use the projected cost of SS based on actuarial projections (which can also be fudged depending on assumptions). People that want to support Social Security can say look at the input and output of Social Security as a standalone program over one year.

All of that to say, I do not trust your analysis of federal spending.
This post was edited on 4/27/26 at 4:16 pm
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
13213 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 4:19 pm to
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prove this by talking about how SS/Medicare need reform and the age of eligibility should be raised and reimbursements need to be cut and you'll see a ton of professed "conservatives" who talk about the government spending less lose their fricking minds


Don’t disagree but there are more, lower hanging fruit to cut.

Cut most of the benefits benefiting the takers before tackling the sustainers.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138530 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 4:22 pm to
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there are more, lower hanging fruit to cut.
A ton of it is hanging in Medicare/Medicaid's orchards though.
Posted by roadGator
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Member since Feb 2009
157548 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 4:39 pm to
I’m not surprised you believe you said something smart.

You didn’t.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13231 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 11:59 pm to
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That doesn't mean the people moving in are qualified.


But it does if the newly created republic requires them to be for admittance.

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There is a reason these urban centers of GDP production and jobs are mainly DEM and educated.


O.k., what's the reason?

NYC has the largest economy in the US, and its GDP is dominated by Wall Street/trading (which is split right down the middle politically), healthcare (also split evenly between Dems, Pubs, and Indies for doctors), the tech industry (which I concede leans left heavily as a whole), and media (also concede).

But only one of those last two is anything important and can easily be replaced in the economy with Republican dominated fields like oil, gas, and energy production, petroleum engineers, banking and finance, etc. (In NYC the one of those that would be comparable and fit would be banking and finance, and it occupies a comparable share of NYC's GDP than tech and media put together).

And the thing about people who tend to lean Republican is that they also gravitate toward entrepreneurial opportunity. Entrepreneurs are almost twice as likely to be Republicans.

Not to mention, it's one thing for idiot tech cowboys and other leftist white collar types to be all leftist when there's something holding back the unfettered nonsense that you would see if the left could do anything it wanted without pushback (at first). It's quite another for them to offer themselves up to basically be eaten alive by the New Communist Republic Of Woke in taxes. Mondami, California's proposed exit taxes, (people forget) Harris talking about unrealized capital gains taxes...I'd give it three years at the most before they all fled. Maybe they wouldn't move to the US of Conservative America, but they wouldn't stay there.

In short, sure, all that shuffling about would be more of a challenge than I first made it out to be, but I can imagine solutions to that problem. I can't imagine what solutions would solve taking the world's reserve currency and flushing it down the toilet.
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