re: Companies continuing to offshore jobs….

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The insatiable greed of these people astounds me.

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What a naive post. Their “insatiable greed” is the same as yours when you try to get raises or lower your mortgage rate.

I was part of a partnership in a company that provided services to the energy sector. I’m still involved in the company, though not as an owner or employee. This company faces price pressure constantly from competitors. If they don’t offshore some of their services they will be out of business.

If we are offshoring too much, and for the good of the country, must reel that in, then the way to do that is with targeted tariffs. The company I’m speaking of would be perfectly happy with that. Tariffs (or similar rules around services) would reduce the price pressure from competitors and allow us to pay higher salaries for Americans. Understand though, your prices will go up, because they will still want to make a profit (You know, that greed thing).

Sure greed is part of this. Greed is what drives capitalism. Greed is what drives every ism. The virtue of capitalism is that it recognizes this and harnesses it for the good of everyone.

Support American companies based in America. If this practice is concerning to you, spend money with companies who keep jobs in America. There are many lists on-line of companies that place people above profits.

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Who are you calling leftist, you are literally a neoliberal NPC

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I don’t know what an NPC is, but Neo-liberal? Here is Hewlitt Foundation’s definition:

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Neoliberalism—the free-market, anti-government, growth-at-all-costs approach to economic and social policy

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Now, “growth at all costs” is going a bit far, and no Neo-Liberal that I know of suggests that, but laissez-faire economics is a fair description.

Anyway, it doesn’t seem like an insult - not without knowing what NPC means, anyhow.

If they taxed/tarifffed product coming from manufacturing sites outside the US, this would stop

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Says the guy that supports political persecution from that same, leftist government.

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Well the first blatant lie of the poli board about me occurred prior to 730am CST.

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That is: we have an almost infinite supply of poor people in emerging nations. Uninhibited offshoring is exposing the lower classes of American workers to shockingly low levels of competition that is ruinous of their lifestyles.

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a. I believe in emigration

b. There are plenty of economic opportunities for these people. They just refuse to take them and refused to adapt and developed cultures of pathology that now prevent them from working normal jobs.

When we used to have this exact conversation with black people in ghettos, it was not controversial at all. When that conversation shifted to white people from less urban areas in areas idolized as halcyon, NOW it's a crisis. It's silliness.

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It has gone so far now that we have to claw back.

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Assuming you're right (and I don't agree), the conversation shifts to "how?"

And if the answer is more government, then this becomes dubious.

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. Trying to prevent industries from leaving your country is hardly Communist. Nor are tariffs Communist.

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Engaging in policies that destroy growth/development by relying on redistribution of wealth from the productive to unproductive is not going to work, b/c Communism always fails. As the SOL falls and our PCGDP craters, the government will take more and more power trying to fix it. And then 20-50 years later scholars will say "well that wasn't real Communism".

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If they taxed/tarifffed product coming from manufacturing sites outside the US, this would stop

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Can you please describe the process by which this would stop it?

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quote:The insatiable greed of these people astounds me.


Well they are moving offshore mostly because labor is cheaper. Why won't US workers work for the same (low) wages offshore workers do? Why are US workers so greedy? Why is maximizing revenue only OK for some people, but not others?

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Is it low wage, low skill workers who are greedy or is it the members of the US Corporatocracy who are greedy?

In real terms when adjusted for inflation working class wages have been flat or falling for 50 years.

For decades the routine has been...

1. import cheap labor, some of it illegal aliens
2. company moves/offshores
3. give country they moved jobs to taxpayer money

It's a recipe for disaster. The disaster relief they should be giving out is for the disaster of dumbass politicians and the disaster is upon us. And don't discount unions as a form of "regulation" also. Regulations are always a balancing act; it is no longer balanced. It favors the heads of government (and unions), see below.

We give Mexico money to fight their crime to only allow illegals to pass through their country from a triangle/SAmerican country and not use law enforcement to stop it only for Whirlpool or GM to move a factory there.

We, citizens- taxpayer or not, lose every step of the way and it defies logic. The root of the problem is government, not business. It is America First that seeks to remedy (or at least mitigate this). As long as the politicians, the root of the problem, continue to paint themselves as saviors and AF policies as racist/evil and we let them continue to do so we can only expect the problem to get worse.

The only winners are the politicians that oppose remedy efforts and benefit n the form of skim, kickback, and lobbyist "contributions" (that allows them to stay in power and make even more money). AF is evil/facist/racist, so you can make money on the side and virtue signal simultaneously. It is purely a selfish motive by government (and union) officials.

Why don’t ceos take a pay cut? Why don’t the upper management take pay cuts?