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Posted on 2/10/19 at 8:35 pm to
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
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Posted on 2/10/19 at 8:35 pm to
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The admissions process is. Duke accepted about 3,300 freshmen last year from 37,300 applications. Princeton had 34,700 applications and accepted 3,100. U. Chicago accepted 2,300 from 32,280 applications. Stone cold competition.


But you said there were more perfect ACT scores than slots?
There were about 3,000 perfect act scores last year.
Hopefully your daughter values truth more than her old man enjoys bullshitting random people on the internet.
Posted by mtheob17
Charleston, SC
Member since Sep 2009
5333 posts
Posted on 2/10/19 at 8:38 pm to
The Citadel in Charleston, SC. Have him look there.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 2/10/19 at 8:38 pm to
Good schools. Congratulations.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29821 posts
Posted on 2/10/19 at 8:39 pm to
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Hey jackass, this thread is about elite college applications. Read the OP. That’s the topic. Your topic is race based excuses. Drop them, they will only scar your kid.


Moron the theme was whites getting rejected over POC despite similar academic achievement. The level of institution is interchangeable as it relates to the point of the op. Get your daughter to explain it to you.
Posted by 257WBY
Member since Feb 2014
5602 posts
Posted on 2/10/19 at 8:39 pm to
Co-workers kid had 34 ACT and was waitlisted at Rice. Went to Mississippi State on a full ride. Now being paid to go to grad school.
The 32 ACT is nice, but won’t be a lock to get in at a lot of places. Sounds like the young man went into the process with unrealistic expectations. Hopefully, he finds the right fit.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23729 posts
Posted on 2/10/19 at 8:46 pm to
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Moron the theme was whites getting rejected over POC despite similar academic achievement.


And what I’m telling you is that the elite schools get the pick of the top of whites, browns, orange, everyone. If your white kid wants to compete at that level, they have to want it. No free lunch.

If you are so race focused, they probably wouldn’t want you or anyone like you anyway.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29821 posts
Posted on 2/10/19 at 8:47 pm to
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And what I’m telling you is that the elite schools get the pick of the top of whites, browns, orange, everyone. If your white kid wants to compete at that level, they have to want it. No free lunch.


Thanks Captain Obvious.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23729 posts
Posted on 2/10/19 at 8:49 pm to
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Thanks Captain Obvious.


Maybe you can start a whites rights club. That would look good on the application.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22428 posts
Posted on 2/10/19 at 8:50 pm to
This thread frightens me. My oldest is a HS freshman, smart kid and he’s taking a very difficult courseload and struggling. He might pull out 2 As and is very likely to have 1 C. I don’t consider him abnormal as he’s always had an easy time til now and many kids struggle at this time in their academics. To think he will have essentially been eliminated not just from the top schools nationally but essentlally all 3 of the top school in state after just his Freshman year kinda sucks. Tough message to deliver to a young person. But one I’ve been trying to warn him about since summer.
Posted by dixiechick
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Posted on 2/10/19 at 8:53 pm to
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Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29821 posts
Posted on 2/10/19 at 9:01 pm to
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Maybe you can start a whites rights club. That would look good on the application.


Or like you suggested, a charity. But instead of helping people it will exist to help your daughter get into college.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
40287 posts
Posted on 2/10/19 at 9:02 pm to
Nah, one C in freshman year won’t eliminate him from the state schools. ACT/SAT is most important thing BY FAR.
Posted by tigerterrace
Mobile, Alabama
Member since Sep 2016
3398 posts
Posted on 2/10/19 at 9:02 pm to
I can say that we have first hand experience with this. My daughter while obviously not male had very similar numbers 32 ACT, 1470 SAT and 4.37 GPA. She took 14 AP classes in High School.

She didn't get into Vandy. We went to Vandy for a Fall welcome day. Then we were invited back for a Spring recruitment weekend. While there we sat in a room with several people on a panel that were attending Vandy.

The thing that stuck out to me was that everyone obviously had those same type scores. Reading websites we saw several that had lower scores, but they all had a story.

Standing there one by one a person would step up and tell us about their essay and how this person spent 6 weeks in a third world country, this person set up libraries in rural community and that person collected 2K coats for the homeless.

I knew then that my daughter was not getting in. She had a little time in the public library and a little time at the local animal shelter.
Posted by biggsc
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Posted on 2/10/19 at 9:17 pm to
Where did she go?
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23729 posts
Posted on 2/10/19 at 9:23 pm to
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Or like you suggested, a charity. But instead of helping people it will exist to help your daughter get into college.


Well, then there’s no hope for your children, unless they have other influences.

The service aspect for a college admission application can not be over emphasized. But this shouldn’t surprise anyone. This is not a modern libral preversion. It is a quintessentially western concept. They don’t award Eagle Scout to the kid who scores the highest on the archery merit badge. Eagle candidacy is judged on the final service project, because the only scouts who deserve to be awarded Eagle are the ones who do their work then turn back and help others. Service demonstrates their character and finishing. Service, in addition to academics, tells the school that you are a good person who will be a positive leader. Having a history of service as a young person can’t hurt, and the absence of service doesn’t help.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
40287 posts
Posted on 2/10/19 at 9:27 pm to
I am going to guess Notre Dame.... by his favorite team
Posted by biggsc
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Posted on 2/10/19 at 9:32 pm to
Yep
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23729 posts
Posted on 2/10/19 at 9:35 pm to
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Yep


Fantastic school. Top of the top.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 2/10/19 at 9:36 pm to
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He might pull out 2 As and is very likely to have 1 C. I don’t consider him abnormal as he’s always had an easy time til now and many kids struggle at this time in their academics. To think he will have essentially been eliminated not just from the top schools nationally but essentlally all 3 of the top school in state after just his Freshman year kinda sucks. Tough message to deliver to a young person. But one I’ve been trying to warn him about since summer.






time for the halftime speech.

It may be too late for all A's but if he gets serious now he can retake the c this summer and be sure to actually know the material.

Organization.
Quiet.

Maybe get him the speed reading course.

A tutor and turn c to b.

Let him.know what the Japanese go through.
This post was edited on 2/10/19 at 9:38 pm
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61275 posts
Posted on 2/10/19 at 9:39 pm to
quote:

True. I was in college in the late 90s. My oldest kid is 8. The people whose kids are going to college now came up at a time when getting into those schools was the pinnacle of achievement and merit...and those scores and accomplishments would have been more than enough. I definitely see things differently for my kids when it will be their time 10+ years from now. This guy still believed that merit trumps all. The red pill moment for him is discovering that is not the case.



Part of the problem too is watered down HS grading systems and standardized testing no longer carries the same weight it once did.


Most people can afford to send their kids to SAT and ACT prep courses that can increase their scores. Theres also a ton of resources out there even if a student doesnt sign up for a prep course.

Ivy league schools admit a ton of legacy students as it is. Then you have athletes that get in with below standard scores. Then you have the minority/diversity quotas...leaves very little room for the true merit students.
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