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Coke accused of wasting water

Posted on 6/1/18 at 10:49 am
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 6/1/18 at 10:49 am
The Verge

There is the same amount of water on this Earth today that there was millions of years ago. Turning water into Coke is not an actual loss of water, even in locales where water is scarce. The people there still drink, piss, sweat, etc., and the water is returned to the environment.

There is no scarcity of water on this planet, just locales that are arid and may not have been created to support their populations.


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“the Coca-Cola Company pledges to replace every drop of water we use in our beverages and their production to achieve balance in communities and in nature with the water we use.” The idea was to make Coke’s operations “water neutral.” That year, the company pledged to reach this goal by 2020.


Unless they are taking the water our of our Earth's atmosphere, they are water neutral. This is one of those made-up metrics like Carbon Footprint.
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17438 posts
Posted on 6/1/18 at 10:51 am to
I’m not educated enough on the salt to fresh cycles but I’m pretty sure fresh comes much slower.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
27067 posts
Posted on 6/1/18 at 10:54 am to
While you’re correct from a technical aspect, a loss of potable water is something different. For example, there is currently an issue in Baton Rouge of industrial plants pulling so much ground water that it’s causing saltwater incursion from the south. If it continues at this rate, the city will need to build a filtration plant in order to process river water instead of using the almost immediately potable water from our water table.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51806 posts
Posted on 6/1/18 at 10:54 am to
Muh H2O
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67488 posts
Posted on 6/1/18 at 10:55 am to
quote:

There is the same amount of water on this Earth today that there was millions of years ago

No......some of it is in space......astronaut's piss is dumped in space.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26776 posts
Posted on 6/1/18 at 10:57 am to
That's a different issue. That is choosing one source over another. If the plants pull the water from the river at the same rate, their "water footprint" would be the same.
Posted by Manzielathon
Death Valley
Member since Sep 2013
8951 posts
Posted on 6/1/18 at 11:04 am to
The whole water thing is dumb as frick, at least domestically and in developed countries. Desalination plants already exist in 120 countries in the world. There are what ... 196-206 countries on Earth?

The more scarce freshwater becomes, the more economically viable it is to open desalination plants, which leads to more people being able to use the ocean as a fresh water resource.

Now, should private companies be in charge of those plants once freshwater becomes terrifyingly scarce? Probably not.

But this idea that a country is absolutely fricked if they run out of freshwater is dumb as frick, particularly if that country is already a developed country.

Doesn’t America already have like 25% of the worlds fresh water or something ridiculous?

The only people natural freshwater is truly crucial for long term is people living in North Africa or African countries that border the Sahara.

Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95471 posts
Posted on 6/1/18 at 11:16 am to
Unless Coke happens to be making wastewater that is untreatable for some reason, I fail to see how they are causing a loss.


Carbonated soda water poured out isn’t a problem.

Carbonated soda water pissed out isn’t a problem.

Are they creating toxic waste water while making this shite?
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54209 posts
Posted on 6/1/18 at 11:20 am to
quote:

there is currently an issue in Baton Rouge of industrial plants pulling so much ground water that it’s causing saltwater incursion from the south. If it continues at this rate, the city will need to build a filtration plant in order to process river water instead of using the almost immediately potable water from our water table.


Duh, how about the industries pulling their own river water? If it needs filtering, let them pay for it.

Maybe I'm missing something here.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41675 posts
Posted on 6/1/18 at 11:22 am to
Need to get some real sugar up in their drinks.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26776 posts
Posted on 6/1/18 at 11:54 am to
quote:

more scarce freshwater becomes


quote:

once freshwater becomes terrifyingly scarce


These things aren't happening.

Of course there are arid places on this planet and if more people move there than there is enough water, then there will be a problem. But the problem is too many people, not too little water.
Posted by starsandstripes
Georgia
Member since Nov 2017
11897 posts
Posted on 6/1/18 at 12:04 pm to
Stop farming CA's central valley.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 6/1/18 at 12:05 pm to
quote:

The more scarce freshwater becomes, the more economically viable it is to open desalination plants, which leads to more people being able to use the ocean as a fresh water resource.


You found the cure for sea levels rising.

/global climate warming change
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27900 posts
Posted on 6/1/18 at 12:25 pm to
uh, all youre suggesting is drawing portable water from another source. It doesn't add or lessen the amount available????
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
27067 posts
Posted on 6/1/18 at 1:00 pm to
quote:

uh, all youre suggesting is drawing portable water from another source. It doesn't add or lessen the amount available????


Potable, and no.

Water pulled from the Mississippi River is not potable without significant treatment. Water pulled from underground reservoirs in Baton Rouge is immediately potable, though we apparently hit it with a bit of chlorine to kill microorganisms.

It’s obviously vastly cheaper to pull already potable water from the ground than to treat it first. Which is why businesses and municipalities frequently fight over water rights.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101392 posts
Posted on 6/1/18 at 1:01 pm to
quote:

While you’re correct from a technical aspect, a loss of potable water is something different. For example, there is currently an issue in Baton Rouge of industrial plants pulling so much ground water that it’s causing saltwater incursion from the south. If it continues at this rate, the city will need to build a filtration plant in order to process river water instead of using the almost immediately potable water from our water table.



It's so dumb that they are using the aquifer water and not the Mississippi River.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 6/1/18 at 1:02 pm to
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The Verge


Dude.

Believe them. They're millennials living in SF. Pretty important
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26776 posts
Posted on 6/1/18 at 1:02 pm to
You're comparing sources and qualities of water. The concept being debated is a company's "water footprint" which would not change under your example.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
27067 posts
Posted on 6/1/18 at 1:10 pm to
quote:

You're comparing sources and qualities of water. The concept being debated is a company's "water footprint" which would not change under your example.


Depends on your definition of the term, I suppose. The article doesn’t give enough information to establish one.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101392 posts
Posted on 6/1/18 at 1:13 pm to
quote:

Depends on your definition of the term, I suppose. The article doesn’t give enough information to establish one.


Probably because Coke is simply using the municipal water of everywhere they have their bottling facilities, which likely accounts for every type of source of potable water in the world.
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