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Coke accused of wasting water
Posted on 6/1/18 at 10:49 am
Posted on 6/1/18 at 10:49 am
The Verge
There is the same amount of water on this Earth today that there was millions of years ago. Turning water into Coke is not an actual loss of water, even in locales where water is scarce. The people there still drink, piss, sweat, etc., and the water is returned to the environment.
There is no scarcity of water on this planet, just locales that are arid and may not have been created to support their populations.
Unless they are taking the water our of our Earth's atmosphere, they are water neutral. This is one of those made-up metrics like Carbon Footprint.
There is the same amount of water on this Earth today that there was millions of years ago. Turning water into Coke is not an actual loss of water, even in locales where water is scarce. The people there still drink, piss, sweat, etc., and the water is returned to the environment.
There is no scarcity of water on this planet, just locales that are arid and may not have been created to support their populations.
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“the Coca-Cola Company pledges to replace every drop of water we use in our beverages and their production to achieve balance in communities and in nature with the water we use.” The idea was to make Coke’s operations “water neutral.” That year, the company pledged to reach this goal by 2020.
Unless they are taking the water our of our Earth's atmosphere, they are water neutral. This is one of those made-up metrics like Carbon Footprint.
Posted on 6/1/18 at 10:51 am to Bjorn Cyborg
I’m not educated enough on the salt to fresh cycles but I’m pretty sure fresh comes much slower.
Posted on 6/1/18 at 10:54 am to Bjorn Cyborg
While you’re correct from a technical aspect, a loss of potable water is something different. For example, there is currently an issue in Baton Rouge of industrial plants pulling so much ground water that it’s causing saltwater incursion from the south. If it continues at this rate, the city will need to build a filtration plant in order to process river water instead of using the almost immediately potable water from our water table.
Posted on 6/1/18 at 10:55 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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There is the same amount of water on this Earth today that there was millions of years ago
No......some of it is in space......astronaut's piss is dumped in space.
Posted on 6/1/18 at 10:57 am to Joshjrn
That's a different issue. That is choosing one source over another. If the plants pull the water from the river at the same rate, their "water footprint" would be the same.
Posted on 6/1/18 at 11:04 am to Bjorn Cyborg
The whole water thing is dumb as frick, at least domestically and in developed countries. Desalination plants already exist in 120 countries in the world. There are what ... 196-206 countries on Earth?
The more scarce freshwater becomes, the more economically viable it is to open desalination plants, which leads to more people being able to use the ocean as a fresh water resource.
Now, should private companies be in charge of those plants once freshwater becomes terrifyingly scarce? Probably not.
But this idea that a country is absolutely fricked if they run out of freshwater is dumb as frick, particularly if that country is already a developed country.
Doesn’t America already have like 25% of the worlds fresh water or something ridiculous?
The only people natural freshwater is truly crucial for long term is people living in North Africa or African countries that border the Sahara.
The more scarce freshwater becomes, the more economically viable it is to open desalination plants, which leads to more people being able to use the ocean as a fresh water resource.
Now, should private companies be in charge of those plants once freshwater becomes terrifyingly scarce? Probably not.
But this idea that a country is absolutely fricked if they run out of freshwater is dumb as frick, particularly if that country is already a developed country.
Doesn’t America already have like 25% of the worlds fresh water or something ridiculous?
The only people natural freshwater is truly crucial for long term is people living in North Africa or African countries that border the Sahara.
Posted on 6/1/18 at 11:16 am to Bjorn Cyborg
Unless Coke happens to be making wastewater that is untreatable for some reason, I fail to see how they are causing a loss.
Carbonated soda water poured out isn’t a problem.
Carbonated soda water pissed out isn’t a problem.
Are they creating toxic waste water while making this shite?
Carbonated soda water poured out isn’t a problem.
Carbonated soda water pissed out isn’t a problem.
Are they creating toxic waste water while making this shite?
Posted on 6/1/18 at 11:20 am to Joshjrn
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there is currently an issue in Baton Rouge of industrial plants pulling so much ground water that it’s causing saltwater incursion from the south. If it continues at this rate, the city will need to build a filtration plant in order to process river water instead of using the almost immediately potable water from our water table.
Duh, how about the industries pulling their own river water? If it needs filtering, let them pay for it.
Maybe I'm missing something here.
Posted on 6/1/18 at 11:22 am to Bjorn Cyborg
Need to get some real sugar up in their drinks.
Posted on 6/1/18 at 11:54 am to Manzielathon
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more scarce freshwater becomes
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once freshwater becomes terrifyingly scarce
These things aren't happening.
Of course there are arid places on this planet and if more people move there than there is enough water, then there will be a problem. But the problem is too many people, not too little water.
Posted on 6/1/18 at 12:04 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
Stop farming CA's central valley.
Posted on 6/1/18 at 12:05 pm to Manzielathon
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The more scarce freshwater becomes, the more economically viable it is to open desalination plants, which leads to more people being able to use the ocean as a fresh water resource.
You found the cure for sea levels rising.
/global climate warming change
Posted on 6/1/18 at 12:25 pm to Joshjrn
uh, all youre suggesting is drawing portable water from another source. It doesn't add or lessen the amount available????
Posted on 6/1/18 at 1:00 pm to RobbBobb
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uh, all youre suggesting is drawing portable water from another source. It doesn't add or lessen the amount available????
Potable, and no.
Water pulled from the Mississippi River is not potable without significant treatment. Water pulled from underground reservoirs in Baton Rouge is immediately potable, though we apparently hit it with a bit of chlorine to kill microorganisms.
It’s obviously vastly cheaper to pull already potable water from the ground than to treat it first. Which is why businesses and municipalities frequently fight over water rights.
Posted on 6/1/18 at 1:01 pm to Joshjrn
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While you’re correct from a technical aspect, a loss of potable water is something different. For example, there is currently an issue in Baton Rouge of industrial plants pulling so much ground water that it’s causing saltwater incursion from the south. If it continues at this rate, the city will need to build a filtration plant in order to process river water instead of using the almost immediately potable water from our water table.
It's so dumb that they are using the aquifer water and not the Mississippi River.
Posted on 6/1/18 at 1:02 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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The Verge
Dude.
Believe them. They're millennials living in SF. Pretty important
Posted on 6/1/18 at 1:02 pm to Joshjrn
You're comparing sources and qualities of water. The concept being debated is a company's "water footprint" which would not change under your example.
Posted on 6/1/18 at 1:10 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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You're comparing sources and qualities of water. The concept being debated is a company's "water footprint" which would not change under your example.
Depends on your definition of the term, I suppose. The article doesn’t give enough information to establish one.
Posted on 6/1/18 at 1:13 pm to Joshjrn
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Depends on your definition of the term, I suppose. The article doesn’t give enough information to establish one.
Probably because Coke is simply using the municipal water of everywhere they have their bottling facilities, which likely accounts for every type of source of potable water in the world.
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