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re: Cohen hearings In-Game Thread - WATCH LIVE
Posted on 2/27/19 at 2:43 pm to tigerinDC09
Posted on 2/27/19 at 2:43 pm to tigerinDC09
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tigerinDC09
This is just like you saying the Stone conversation is proof.
I pointed out your time line was wrong. You ran.
June the 12th, btw, is when WIKI announced the they were going to release them. NOT July 22nd
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Posted on 2/27/19 at 2:44 pm to tigerinDC09
Judges get overruled every single day.
Posted on 2/27/19 at 2:44 pm to tigerinDC09
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Just something desperate Trump supporters have made up
Dems are so desperate they scheduled Michael Cohen's testimony at the exact time Trump is meeting with Kim Jong Un
Try again.
Posted on 2/27/19 at 2:45 pm to Jjdoc
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Asking again. Please link to the campaign finance crime that that equals a felony and he is being charged for.
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In the Manhattan courtroom, Cohen told U.S. District Judge William Pauley that “blind loyalty” led him to cover up for Trump. Cohen said he was ready to provide “as much information as I truthfully possess” on the president.
“I am committed to proving my integrity and ensuring that history will not remember me as the villain of his story,” Cohen said, choking up at times while giving his statement. “I am truly sorry and I promise I will be better.”
Pauley sentenced Cohen to three years for the payments, and unrelated crimes of tax evasion and misleading banks. He gave Cohen two months for lying to Congress about a proposed Trump Tower project in Russia. The judge said the two terms would run simultaneously and he set March 6 for Cohen’s surrender.
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Posted on 2/27/19 at 2:46 pm to tigerinDC09
LOL! You mean the sex thing again! That's a fine for his election committee. Obama's fine for that charge over several million was $375K. Aside from that it is a he said/he said thing. It is not illegal to pay a whore for sex. Then it may be immoral but not illegal to pay her again when she threatens you. He has a wife and children BTW. Your "material witness" is a convicted liar. So good luck!
Posted on 2/27/19 at 2:46 pm to timdonaghyswhistle
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Judges get overruled every single day.
So this is going to the supreme court then right?
Posted on 2/27/19 at 2:47 pm to tigerinDC09
Judges aren't infallible.
Posted on 2/27/19 at 2:48 pm to The Pirate King
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Telling Cohen to find a way for the money for stormy not to come from him, trump company, or the campaign, and reimbursing Cohen from his personal money is not a crime.
It is if, in fact, campaign money was used
Posted on 2/27/19 at 2:48 pm to jimdog
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LOL! You mean the sex thing again! That's a fine for his election committee. Obama's fine for that charge over several million was $375K. Aside from that it is a he said/he said thing. It is not illegal to pay a whore for sex. Then it may be immoral but not illegal to pay her again when she threatens you. He has a wife and children BTW. Your "material witness" is a convicted liar. So good luck!
Muh Obama!
The SDNY has implicated Trump in a felony conspiracy. There's no amount of whataboutism that can change that.
Posted on 2/27/19 at 2:49 pm to Paddyshack
Now we know why Trump had the Navajo veterans to the White House.... so they could teach him to code.
Posted on 2/27/19 at 2:49 pm to tigerinDC09
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tigerinDC09
So... when can we expect impeachment and removal from office? Next couple weeks? Maybe a month or so? I mean, that has to be what comes after all this felonious activity by Trump, right?
Posted on 2/27/19 at 2:50 pm to tigerinDC09
Implicated? LOL
That's a very fancy way of saying they got nothing.
That's a very fancy way of saying they got nothing.
Posted on 2/27/19 at 2:50 pm to tigerinDC09
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For Cohen and Trump's crime, take a look at Cohen's sentencing statement.
Yes, again, what is the punishment for a campaign finance violation? He plead guilty to many counts. Each entails a different punishment. Do you know the difference?
Posted on 2/27/19 at 2:50 pm to VOR
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Telling Cohen to find a way for the money for stormy not to come from him, trump company, or the campaign, and reimbursing Cohen from his personal money is not a crime.
It is if, in fact, campaign money was used
Aside from that, the fraudulent way Cohen was re-imbursed shows corrupt intent.
Posted on 2/27/19 at 2:51 pm to tigerinDC09
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A judge can't legally accept a plea to something that isn't a crime.
You don't understand. Illegal campaign contributions is a crime. If properly adjudicated, what Cohen did would not rise to that level. But he can certainly admit to doing something illegal, and when that thing is in fact illegal, a judge isn't going to deny a plea as a sort of ad hoc adjudication.
Stop being an idiot. And the sentencing didn't even call it a "felonious illegal campaign violation conspiracy," so quit lying. It was an illegal campaign contribution. The sentencing filing also didn't distinguish parts of the sentence among the various crimes.
He got 3 years and a $100,000 fine for all crimes he plead to. This included pervasive tax evasion, falsifying documents, lying to a financial institution, and false statements to Congress. You're going to go on believing that campaign violation was the meat of the sentence. That will make you look foolish.
Posted on 2/27/19 at 2:52 pm to SSpaniel
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So... when can we expect impeachment and removal from office? Next couple weeks? Maybe a month or so? I mean, that has to be what comes after all this felonious activity by Trump, right?
Good question, ask the Republican senators, they are Trump's only jury for federal crimes right now.
Posted on 2/27/19 at 2:54 pm to VOR
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It is if, in fact, campaign money was used
Considering Cohen said today that the money was from Don’s personal bank account or his trust, id say that’s not campaign money unless he was depositing it in his personal bank account.
Posted on 2/27/19 at 2:56 pm to tigerinDC09
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So this is going to the supreme court then right?
Cohen's plea agreement is not appealable, though it should have gone to the FEC for their assessment.
FEC guidance provides that this would not be a CF violation because the debt/obligation existed or arose irrespective of the campaign.
Whether dims want to use as a basis for impeachment, that's their call. The SDNY is a politically motivated hack job providing dims cover.
Posted on 2/27/19 at 2:57 pm to The Pirate King
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Considering Cohen said today that the money was from Don’s personal bank account or his trust, id say that’s not campaign money unless he was depositing it in his personal bank account.
That can't be. TigerinDC has Trump dead to rights on fraudulent felonious campaign finance violations.
Posted on 2/27/19 at 2:58 pm to deathvalleytiger10
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Yes, again, what is the punishment for a campaign finance violation? He plead guilty to many counts. Each entails a different punishment. Do you know the difference?
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In response to a mandate in the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act of 2002 (BCRA), the U.S. Sentencing Commission (Sentencing Commission) recently issued new sentencing guidelines for campaign finance violations. Together with the BCRA, the new guidelines dramatically toughen the criminal penalties available under campaign finance law.
Prior to amendment by the BCRA, the Justice Department rarely initiated criminal prosecutions under the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971. Accordingly, most enforcement actions occurred under the Federal Election Commission's (FEC) civil authority to seek fines.
The BCRA increases the number of campaign finance violations that may be charged as felonies and boosts maximum penalties to two years of incarceration for even the least serious offenses and five years for more serious offenses.
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