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Cohen admits to making payments "for the principal purpose of influencing the election"

Posted on 8/21/18 at 6:06 pm
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 8/21/18 at 6:06 pm
That's the NY Times headline, but what exactly does that mean? Trump paid the skanks off becasuse the stories were intentionally timed to derail his presidential bid.
So he paid them to go away. IMO the NY Times is making it sound a lot more nefarious than it is.

If he used camaign funds to pay them, then I get that it's a big deal. Otherwise, what exactly is the crime here?

quote:

Michael D. Cohen, President Trump’s former fixer, pleaded guilty on Tuesday to breaking campaign finance laws and other charges. He made the extraordinary admission that he arranged payments to two women “at the direction of the candidate,” referring to Mr. Trump, to secure their silence about affairs they said they had with Mr. Trump.

Mr. Cohen told a judge in United States District Court in Manhattan that the payments were “for the principal purpose of influencing the election” for president in 2016.

Mr. Cohen also pleaded guilty to multiple counts of tax evasion and bank fraud, bringing to a close a monthslong investigation by Manhattan federal prosecutors who examined his personal business dealings and his role in helping to arrange financial deals with women connected to Mr. Trump.

ny times by way of msn.com
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
23718 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 6:11 pm to
Would they both be guilty of blackmail? I believe that is still illegal.
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 8/21/18 at 6:12 pm to
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Mr. Cohen told a judge in United States District Court in Manhattan that the payments were “for the principal purpose of influencing the election” for president in 2016.


That's exactly, word for word, what he was told to say by the Mueller team to create as much disinformation and chaos as possible.

Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 8/21/18 at 6:13 pm to
This is why the NY Times will be bankrupt in 7years
Posted by Mindenfan
Minden
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 8/21/18 at 6:13 pm to
Everyone that has ever given money to a campaign did it to influence the election.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50516 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 6:14 pm to
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for the principal purpose of influencing the election


Seems like an odd inclusion. The women were trying to influence the election. Cohen merely paid them not to.

Let's be real here. Even if these things had come out prior to the election, the result would have been the same. No one cares if Trump did or didn't sleep with these two women. This had no effect on the election.
This post was edited on 8/21/18 at 6:16 pm
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6496 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 6:15 pm to
quote:

Everyone that has ever given money to a campaign did it to influence the election.



This is what im thinking. Im confused on why that quote is significant at all to the special counsil. Paying off stormy = colluding with russians?

Posted by Toddy
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2010
27250 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 6:17 pm to
So Trump told Cohen to commit a felony?
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
34105 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 6:19 pm to
Cohen is a sideshow. Cohen made a deal to say anything to save his arse. Why did Mueller dump this on US Attorney's in Manhattan if this was anything.

Cohen is a liar, a tax cheat, illegally taped conversations, and hired a scum democrat/Clinton lawyer. He'll have his own show on CNN by the end of the week.
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
19525 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 6:22 pm to
I voted for Trump for the principal purpose of influencing the election.

I encouraged others to vote for Trump for the principal purpose of influencing the election.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164143 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 6:22 pm to
How is it news that a billionaire used his own money to pay chicks to be quiet. Where is the relation to campaign funds coming from?
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 8/21/18 at 6:22 pm to
Everyone that has ever given money to a campaign did it to influence the election.
Posted by bstew3006
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Member since Dec 2007
12576 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 6:26 pm to
This is one of the biggest "nothing burgers"! Even if true, it's a 5 figure fine and no jail time. It's great talking points for media and dumbass libs but it amounts to nothing.

Posted by Friscodog
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2009
4473 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 6:26 pm to
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Cohen admits to making payments "for the principal purpose of influencing the election


So what.. doing things to influence elections has been going on for years..

For example: Someone in Chicago running for office handing out hundred dollar bills to all of the church member as they leave to "help" them with their bills is NOT trying to influence an election?

What about stopping by and picking up people to drive them to the polls so they can vote, how is that not trying to influence the election?

Buying TV ads by PAC groups is trying to influence the election

Sure anyone who's running for office is trying to do things to influence the election, to think otherwise is just plain dumb.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 6:27 pm to
quote:

Everyone that has ever given money to a campaign did it to influence the election.



That^
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63538 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 6:30 pm to
But most people try, you know, not to violate federal law.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73772 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 6:30 pm to
How hard did Barry try?
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 8/21/18 at 6:30 pm to
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What is the felony?
This post was edited on 8/21/18 at 6:33 pm
Posted by Stuttgart Tiger
Branson, MO
Member since Jan 2006
14545 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 6:31 pm to
So we got Michael Cohen, Lanny Davis - former Clinton #1 guy, and the NYT.

Yep, this story will be spun worse than an out-of-balance washing machine.
Posted by Sidicous
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Aug 2015
17177 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 6:32 pm to
quote:

Everyone that has ever given money to a campaign did it to influence the election.
Everyone who ever cast a vote in a primary did it to influence an election.

Everyone who put a sign in their yard or on a telephone pole did it to influence an election.

Anyone who ever answered a poll about politics did so to influence an election.

If anyone voted, or failed to vote, did it to influence election.
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