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re: CO to raise state income taxes on higher-earning households to fund free meals

Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:14 am to
Posted by Reflex
Member since Oct 2025
273 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:14 am to
quote:

If you pretend his administration didn’t produce results while you’re living through the Dollar-Store Era of Bidenomics?


1000% bullshite

Trump has done nothing but increase debt.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
73335 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:17 am to
cope harder, more!

Under Trump (in 10 months):
- Border crossings almost at 0
- Energy prices down
- Inflation under control
- Middle East not on fire
- Russia didn’t invade anybody
- Interest rates stabilizing

Under Biden (your guy):
- Record illegal crossings
- Gas up, food up, inflation up
- Interest rates choking everyone
- Foreign policy dumpster fire
- Your retirement account crying in the shower
Posted by Reflex
Member since Oct 2025
273 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:23 am to
quote:

Under Trump (in 10 months):
- Border crossings almost at 0
- Energy prices down
- Inflation under control
- Middle East not on fire
- Russia didn’t invade anybody
- Interest rates stabilizing



You really drank the whole bowl, didn't you?
Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
1985 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:27 am to
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Here's a better one


That is incorrect.

The increased tax is on HOUSEHOLDS earning more than $300,000 not individuals earning more than $300,000.

Big difference.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
73335 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:28 am to
tell me where I’m wrong about the accomplishments of either (your guy included)
Posted by Reflex
Member since Oct 2025
273 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:33 am to
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Yes, border crossings have dramatically decreased under Trump's second term. The data shows some of the lowest numbers in decades:
Border crossings dropped to approximately 8,400 apprehensions in February 2025 (Trump's first full month), the lowest monthly total since at least 2000, and possibly since 1968. By fiscal year 2025 (ending September 30), total apprehensions were around 238,000 - the lowest annual level since 1970. (CBS News) (CBS News)
Important context though:
Crossings had already been declining since March 2024 under Biden, particularly after June 2024 when Biden implemented asylum restrictions. The trend was downward before Trump took office in January 2025. (CBS News) (PBS)
The drop represents both Trump's aggressive enforcement policies and trends that began months before he returned to office. Migration experts note that border numbers are "volatile" and fluctuate constantly. (Axios)
The unknown factor: Crossings also fell sharply when Trump first took office in 2017, but then spiked again in 2019. Experts say it's unclear if these ultra-low levels will be sustainable long-term, especially given the role Mexico plays in enforcement and ongoing trade tensions. (Axios)
So yes, the numbers are historically low right now, but there's legitimate debate about how much credit goes to Trump's policies versus pre-existing trends, and whether it'll last


Weren't you just bitching a minute ago about me oversimplifying things?

There's strike one. Do I need to put you out completely or are you getting the picture yet?
This post was edited on 11/5/25 at 8:35 am
Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
9583 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:46 am to
Newsflash: an individual can be a household.

Posted by Double Oh
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
23426 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:51 am to
quote:

Donnie's platform changes DAILY.

Dude tweets one thing, says another, then does none of it.

fricking solid platform there.




You have TDS bad. Get some help see a doctor.

In the meantime go suck on Bidens wee wee or Obama's wee wee
Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
1985 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:01 am to
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Newsflash: an individual can be a household.


Sure, but the proposition, and the tax, deals with households. A household can be an individual but a family of 4 cannot be an individual. It is a big difference.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83232 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:11 am to
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You don’t understand what I’m saying. A couple making $300k to $400k with a family in a high cost, high tax state isn’t “rich.” Now you’re told that you need to pay even more in taxes every year to feed other people’s kids. This is why people are fleeing Cali for Nevada and other states.

I understand exactly what you’re saying. What I’m saying is that people making $300k are not rich but they’re doing well. And most people can’t simply relocate and keep their same jobs. Or relocate their small businesses. At some point such people will flee the state, of course, but it will take a lot more than this free lunch tax. Colorado also has natural beauty that people will pay extra for.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
34164 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:14 am to
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it kind of does. kids should be able to eat.


Tying a food entitlement to education is ridiculous. There are already food entitlements. If they can't afford food, the government is ALREADY paying for it.

This is providing free meals to ALL students. Completely moronic.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
34164 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:19 am to
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Good, making sure the bellies of literal children are fed should be the bare minimum of societies obligation to them.


This provides free meals to ALL public school students. Even wealthy ones. Even kids who are already getting government paid for groceries at home. There is already a free and reduced cost public school lunch program for those in need.

Dumb and unnecessary.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
26335 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:22 am to
And this is why the income tax needs to be a flat rate... so people must vote to raise their own taxes to pass a tax increase.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
34164 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:22 am to
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Gee. I wonder where the 30% increase in meals served came from?


Combination of illegals, and students who brought their lunch, but started eating the school lunch once it became free.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
35628 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:57 am to
This is what they do. They attract elite, rich and influential liberals to their areas to help secure it as perma-blue, and then they raise the taxes on the same elites. The elites then decide to go to more wealth-friendly environs like TX and FL, and they bring their abhorrent voting practices with them to rinse and repeat.

It's the allegorical equivalent of watching cancer spread across society.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
16728 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 10:02 am to
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Your kid can’t read and do math, but they get free breakfast. That’s all that matters.


And that kids momma already gets snap benefits that are supposed to pay for breakfast.

But she sold those stamps so she could get "her hair and nails did".
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125649 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 10:09 am to
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And this is why the income tax needs to be a flat rate... so people must vote to raise their own taxes to pass a tax increase.


You can’t increase government influence and spending when everyone pays up front.

Just make them pay on the back end through inflation. They apparently think inflation is caused by Elon Musk.
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