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re: CNN throwing temper tantrum bc Trump didn't invite them

Posted on 11/16/16 at 9:26 am to
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
38887 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 9:26 am to
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And you people are celebrating the erosion of one of the cornerstones of democratic governance. Shame on you.


Are you a writer for CNN?



the old lever of power is ineffective and we don't have our hand on the new one yet is how I read this
Posted by JamalSanders
On a boat
Member since Jul 2015
12135 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 9:33 am to
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A press corp? Seriously, isn't a fricking cornerstone of democratic governance.


How not?


You do realize that the burden of proof is on you and not me in this discussion right? But to help foster discussion, if you wanted to say the press in general and not the press corp was an essential part of governance (note the lack of democratic) I would be inclined to agree with you. Democracy can and has worked in a time when there was no press (see the Greeks/Romans).

Now you placed an extra burden of proof on the press corp and that is that they are a cornerstone. When I think of a cornerstone I think of something that is so integral and a part of something that removing it would render the full useless or destroyed (think a plane without wings, human without a heart or brain, gun without a trigger). To me the cornerstones of democratic governance are the ability for the people to vote, those that are voted in doing the will of the people, and an avenue for the people to change those who are are voted in.

With all of that said, per the requirements that you put in and with the definitions layed out before you. A press corp cannot be a cornerstone of democratic governance.
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
22667 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 9:45 am to
Trump should respond that he didn't want his dinner plans leaked to Donna Brazile.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61433 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 9:50 am to
Lol. They act like they're doing a service for the American people. Yeah cnn, your "trump promotes white supremacist " stories are REALLY helpful
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78614 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 9:52 am to
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A press corp cannot be a cornerstone of democratic governance.


Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
147755 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 10:14 am to
The ragin cajun MELTED when Crooked lost.

Hey James if you are posting here...Tell Mary she did a good beat down of the commie Van Jones.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
19149 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 10:42 am to
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I also think somebody should tell you guys that because you're fricking nuts celebrating the decline of the press.



The decline of the press. Now there's an interesting topic. Hey James, if you wanna know why the press is in decline, look in the fricking mirror. Your job is to REPORT THE frickING NEWS! Maybe you bastards should try that for a change instead of creating the god damn news. Go drag a dollar bill through a trailer park and STFU!
Posted by LSU Wayne
Walker
Member since Apr 2005
4365 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 10:44 am to
Jennifer Palmieri has this message to the press:

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1/2 I recommend all media covering Trump read "True Believer" by Eric Hoffer. It is about mass movements & rise of authoritarian leaders.

2/2 It was written in 1951. I hope what's described doesnt come to fruition now. But all covering him should have this book in mind.
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
19489 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 11:01 am to
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I've already explained that he hasn't even assembled a press corp yet, which is a reversal of modern presidential norms. It isn't about the dinner, and this line of argumentation is intellectually dishonest.


When did Obama assemble his press corp? I'm legitimately curious as I've done a cursory google search but am unable to find the answer. I see where he held a press conference 3 days after his election but that doesn't necessarily mean he had assembled his press corp yet.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32133 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 11:02 am to
CNN doesn't have people inside the transition team. That much is clear.
Posted by Das Jackal
Da Bayou
Member since Sep 2011
2602 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 11:28 am to
Why would he invite the network that leaked debate question to the bitch??
Posted by rumproast
Member since Dec 2003
12101 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 1:02 pm to
And I think Jennifer should go read "Sally Sore Loser" by Frank Sileo. LINK
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29802 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 1:07 pm to
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the behavior breaks with well-established norms governing a president's relationship with the press corps.
What about the well-established norms of the press actually being honest, objective and non-biased?

What about that norm?
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29802 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 1:26 pm to
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The press have themselves to blame.



And you and I will pay the price.
We already did with the election of Obama in '08.

Can you honestly say the press honestly vetted Obama before the campaign or during his presidency?
This post was edited on 11/16/16 at 1:44 pm
Posted by msu202020
Member since Feb 2011
4142 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 1:30 pm to
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democratic governance


Good thing we are not a democracy.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29802 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 1:35 pm to
Kissing his son goodbye. I love this man.


Posted by beaverfever
Little Rock
Member since Jan 2008
32818 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 1:39 pm to
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Why would he invite the network that leaked debate question to the bitch??
Why is this not the ENTIRE discussion. CNN is dirty and they got busted. They've abused their access. They don't deserve any credibility. I'd only ice them out and I'd allow the other liberal media right along and do it with a big smile and see if the message was received.
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
25415 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 1:47 pm to
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He is a moron if he thinks that he gets to openly campaign for a candidate and then be taken seriously as a journalist when the campaign ends.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
38887 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 1:53 pm to
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Kissing his son goodbye. I love this man.


Tom Herman AF
Posted by Oyster
North Shore
Member since Feb 2009
10224 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 2:07 pm to
Act like journalists with integrity and maybe you will get invited.
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