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re: CNN - Ukraine struggling with massive desertion and low morale

Posted on 9/9/24 at 11:27 am to
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
38582 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 11:27 am to
Of course, one of the interesting sidebars to all this is something that feminists and progressives never bring up. Ukraine is fighting for its very existence and is running out of manpower. Why aren't they using women in Frontline combat roles??? If things are this dire numbers-wise, why exclude half your available troop strength?

I'm guessing it's because what no one will say out loud is, not only are women useless in combat roles, they're actually detrimental. But, no one in the US military command structure has enough balls to bring that issue up here.
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
24832 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 11:29 am to
Guess the money is drying up.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30518 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 11:33 am to
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We'll find another proxy war to bankroll.


Yep, things in the ME didn't heat back up like they expected... I am thinking they will go with something in the Pacific Theater this time... Been awhile...

MIC has got to eat...
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
10170 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 11:39 am to
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In the last 2 years 550,000 draft eligible men left Ukraine and are in other countries.


It's hard for corrupt governments to get soldiers for their wars without using threats. That's why recruitment numbers are falling in the US. I wouldn't want my family members to die so our corrupt politicians could get even wealthier.
Posted by Chief One Word
Eastern Washington State
Member since Mar 2018
4254 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 11:47 am to
Can't blame the deserters. Who wants to get picked apart by a drone you cant.see and go home without your extremities and spend the next 50.yrs with a fricked body and head while at the same time you.know it's a losing cause.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 11:51 am to
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Of course you should feel bad for them. It’s not their fault they are being used as neocon chess pieces


Yeah, it’s the warmongering pieces of shite in the OT thread that don’t give a single frick about these people’s lives. They’re just thrilled being keyboard warriors getting erections from mass slaughter and don’t consider the Ukrainians or the Russians as human beings with families, kids, and friends. Just throw them into the meat grinder so I can play real life Age of Empires!
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 11:55 am to
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as much as I like to rag on clown puppet Zelensky, you have to feel bad for the guy. neocons fed him a whole bunch of bullshite, even dangling NATO membership.


Not to mention if Zelensky loses the war, then the Neo-Nazis standing behind him with chop up him and his entire family and feed them to the fishes. I actually do feel bad for Zelensky and don’t think I’d be doing anything different if I were in his situation.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
18447 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 12:03 pm to
Hey landshark,

You know I go over there every couple of days and list the real news, add in some "give back to the motherland what is Russia's" and thats good for a couple of pages of derogatory comments.

But what is odd, the comments inevitably are about oral sex and Putin, those folks have some serious projection issues, I think they secretly have crushes on the ole fella.

The war itself is a sad human waste on both sides, and could have easily been prevented.

I think the next laundry operation is already in place in the Philippines, building seven new bases there, a willing corrupt govt, and a bad guy in China.
Posted by Clemsontigers02
Member since Sep 2020
1066 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 12:06 pm to
How do you think the war ends? Disputed territories for the next x number of years? Or updated clear boundaries between the two countries
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86245 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 1:28 pm to
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I don't think anyone is really rooting for Russia. They're upset because (a) the U.S. assisted a coup 10 years ago and has been meddling there ever since; (b) $100 billion plus sent there; and (c) there have been multiple off ramps, but the neocons like Nuland wanted to try to break Russia.
I understand all that, but the posts just don't look that way. A lot of them look like they are happy that Putin did what he did, and are rooting him on with every step.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 6:36 pm to
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But what is odd, the comments inevitably are about oral sex and Putin, those folks have some serious projection issues, I think they secretly have crushes on the ole fella.


It’s because those people have no facts on their side and they deep down know that they’re cheering on the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people in the name of the LARP.

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I think the next laundry operation is already in place in the Philippines, building seven new bases there, a willing corrupt govt, and a bad guy in China.


I mean, it’s definitely possible, but I think even the warmongers realize there will be total economic collapse if that happens where they’re slightly more cautious with China than with Russia.
Posted by 88Wildcat
Topeka, Ks
Member since Jul 2017
16368 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 6:39 pm to
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Ukraine struggling with massive desertion and low morale


In other words Ukraine reminds CNN of CNN.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
18447 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 7:05 pm to
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How do you think the war ends? Disputed territories for the next x number of years? Or updated clear boundaries between the two countries


With the borders as they exist now, Donbas and certainly Crimea consider themselves Russian. Heck the number one country taking in refugees from Ukraine is, Russia.

No one is a Russian fan, but I certainly am no fan of that corrupt shathole we have sent 200 billion to. Remember to check the fine print, a large chunk of the "aid" is going through USAID and other agencies so its not "technically" counted in the dollars of direct aid the press counts.

Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
66053 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 7:07 pm to
Victoria Nuland update.
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Posted by Bunk Moreland
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66053 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 7:08 pm to
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