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re: CK"s head of security tells his story of why the roof was available to the assassin.

Posted on 11/19/25 at 11:05 pm to
Posted by Giantkiller
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 11/19/25 at 11:05 pm to
I dunno but I wonder how the assassin is doing. I’d imagine it’s a pretty far cry from gaming and Discord chats and furries and getting blown by your trans-girl/boyfriend.

What do you have in the can? Books? Blank notebooks to write and draw in? 23 hours under fluorescent lights and an hour in the yard? And this is rest of his miserable life…

I wonder how he feels about what he did now.
Posted by I20goon
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Member since Aug 2013
18823 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 5:44 am to
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what is it with all these security organization failing to cover roofs??

all it would take is a single drone to detect movement anywhere.
I heard one time the high ground is the best real estate to defend.

Guess that guy was wrong... so the experts say.
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
52726 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 5:50 am to
Even in a basic supply chain business sense you - follow up, confirm ....everything
Posted by Snazzmeister
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Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 11/20/25 at 5:59 am to
Even worse, he claimed that the classification of the air space prevented him from flying drones. When Shawn pointed out that there were drones at the event, he countered by saying those were the film team’s smaller drones that aren’t affected by the same restrictions due to their size.

So, the security detail didn’t have a drone up because theirs was too big? How much was CK paying these guys to not be able to afford a $2,000 DJI?
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
38508 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 6:00 am to
Big Government institutions will always lend inferior services to those activists who oppose big government. When an activist as powerful as Kirk or Trump choose to go into those areas they had better CYA because the local government will leave the security door wide open and even use bureaucratic red tape to make it harder to close it. The Left views it as a FAFO issue as their reaction to Kirk’s assassination proves. A ‘you don’t pay us you don’t get served’ mentality.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 11/20/25 at 6:13 am to
Posting to remind me to listen later.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
21914 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 6:32 am to
quote:

what is it with all these security organization failing to cover roofs??
theyre amateurs
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464503 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 6:37 am to
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What do you have in the can? Books? Blank notebooks to write and draw in?

Here they get tablets that have limited usage/apps. They have a communication app and a library app for the books, etc.

Paper is becoming a big "no no" in jails/prisons because drugs are smuggled in that way.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
22373 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 6:58 am to
Not securing all roofs is a complete security failure, it’s made worse by the fact the secret service failed at it and should have been used as a blue print to not have it again.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35491 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 7:02 am to
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I think we need to hear from the UVU campus police, we need their explanation of why that rooftop was not secure.

Seems pretty common sense. Schools are not securing rooftops like the damn POTUS SS detail every time there’s a guest speaker or presenter on campus.
This post was edited on 11/20/25 at 7:04 am
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35491 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 7:04 am to
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Not securing all roofs is a complete security failure, it’s made worse by the fact the secret service failed at it and should have been used as a blue print to not have it again.

Because POTUS security and guest speakers on college campuses should have the exact same level of security paramters?

What you’re expecting isn’t realistic.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
22373 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 7:06 am to
CK had hired his own security so should have been secured. The guy fricked up and shouldn’t be employed in security ever again.

Also when the left is making credible threats to certain speakers you should have higher security. Does cam higby need rooftop security? No

People need to be better at their jobs it’s plain and simple.
Posted by keks tadpole
Yellow Leaf Creek
Member since Feb 2017
8452 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 7:13 am to
Give one person binoculars and the responsibility of watching the roof tops.
Tha level of incompetence is unfathomable.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
22373 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 7:15 am to
Yea you could cover all the roofs multiple ways, I’m sure CK dropped a pretty penny on security and it got him killed because they trusted a useless group.

Erika should absolutely sue the security company and demand some fees back
Posted by TFH
Member since Apr 2016
3410 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 7:17 am to
What pisses me off is they could have easily had a dozen frat bros hang out on the roof to watch the show and make sure no one SHOT A frickING RIFLE from up there
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
57690 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 8:38 am to
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seems to have a lot of excuses rather than insisting that certain prerequisite security measures be met before Kirk's appearance at UVU.


Someone's private security doesn't have jurisdiction over local police, especially when it comes to school buildings.

He was assured by the deputy chief of police that the stairwell access to that roof would be taken care of, it wasn't. In other words, the UVU police assumed responsibility for that approach.

That's not an "excuse," it's just a fact that at least that particular point of failure was the fault of the UVU police and/or the deputy chief.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
21019 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 8:44 am to
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The guy knew the roof and access was a huge issue and basically told police it needed attention. Go figure it had no attention and a shooter killed Kirk from the roof


He told the police chief and the chief said, "I got it covered."
What's the guy supposed to do after that?
I thought the fella answered and explained the entire situation very well.
Posted by Zephyrius
Wharton, La.
Member since Dec 2004
9300 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 9:02 am to
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According to him, because of the nearby airport, they didn’t have FAA authorization for drones. FWIW

But then Frank Turek had a podcast shortly after the assassination that said TPUSA had drones taking video of the crowds before the event started.

So, someone is lying which is has been an issue since the death of Kirk.
Posted by UK34
Member since May 2016
182 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 9:08 am to
Most likely just got lazy and only focused on potential threats directly in front of them. Only have to be wrong once in that business and it cost a man his life.
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
2131 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 9:11 am to
Complete and utter nonsense. Terrible acting job. But both (assets).

They really think we're nincompoops.

Shawn Ryan
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