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re: City of New Orleans, contractors sued by seven victims of 'preventable' Bourbon attack

Posted on 1/10/25 at 12:21 pm to
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61469 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 12:21 pm to
quote:

The only person that should be sued is the guy who ran people over


I agree but I wonder if an argument can be made to hold the owner of the vehicle responsible. I’m not saying the owner should be held responsible, just thinking.
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
68838 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 12:22 pm to
It will be a close call. The trial will be interesting
Posted by j_f
NOLA
Member since Oct 2024
94 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 12:41 pm to
quote:

They apparently had hostile vehicle mitigation devices in their inventory and failed to deploy them.

Those, when placed appropriately, would have prevented him from getting that truck on the sidewalk where the main body of citizens were.

That’s a pretty big frick up.


This. If your own policy says that you should do x and y, i.e. put up portable barriers or a larger vehicle like a dump truck, and you just roll an SUV in there and call it a day, you're opening yourself up to a gross negligence claim, I'd think.
Posted by Mandtgr47
Member since Aug 2024
7918 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 1:08 pm to
quote:

I dont think they should be. This guy would have found people to run over regardless.


LOL....ole roger the dem......

Whether or not they could have found a way is not the issue....it is IF the City did all it could to keep citizens safe. They obviously failed at this bigly, and should be held accountable.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 1:10 pm to
quote:


LOL....ole roger the dem......


Look at you with your "its societies fault"...

Dems do dumb stuff like blaming those who werent involved, just like youre doing.

Retarded populists always want a pound of flesh, just not from the perp.
This post was edited on 1/10/25 at 1:11 pm
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61469 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 1:31 pm to
quote:

Whether or not they could have found a way is not the issue....it is IF the City did all it could to keep citizens safe.


People get hurt on Bourbon Street all the time and have for years. If the City is supposed to do everything in its power to keep people safe, they would shut it down. That’s basically your argument.
Posted by Westbank111
Armpit of America
Member since Sep 2013
4592 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 1:58 pm to
I’ve known the owner of “Hard Rock Construction” and several of his top foreman etc…. i will just say his first name “Mr. Carl”

He originally started out at one time living in his pickup truck and came from the ground up and. whine humble beginnings.

a True American success story, he currently owns a Million+$$ House in Timberlane across the street from “Bobby Guidry”, Louisiana Mafia Bobby! “Hard Rock’s house looks like a Miami 5.0 type house”

anyways. i won’t mention full names with Hard Rock, but i can say that at least back in the day when i was around him more, he seemed to be a decent to good guy: but who knows how major success changes anyone?

most of his workers love or like him back in the day, he used to pay for company vacations to the mountains in Tennessee & would give the wives nice presents like Louis Vuitton purses etc…. and leave the presents on their bedroom beds at the resort for whe. they arrive.

Hard Rock over the years got their foot into the door of NOLA contracts and that usually usually means he may have had another side to him because you don’t do biz in NOLA in Construction on that level w/out backroom dealings.

Trivia for ya: Hard Rock fixed that major sink-hole on Canal St. years ago.

This happenings of the Terror deal could fold him like a cheap tent & he has super deep pockets!

There is ZERO REASON those barricades should not have been engaged and in full force.

the sidewalk could have still been open for a truck to sneak thru, but if you’ve got barricades up like they are supposed to, then you park your NOPD cars blocking the sidewalks.

ESPECIALLY FOR HOLIDAY & Sugar Bowl crowds.

I was jumped on that block as a teenager, got crow-hopped with a baseball bat by some “Dindu’s Nuffins” and woke up in charity Hospital a day later with a shattered cheek bone and major concussion. There was a restaurant camera that caught it all. some cowards from the projects being racist and jumped 2 white boys, that’s what it boiled down to.

Nothing good ever happens at “Canal & Bourbon”, i tell everyone visiting or tourist i see to stay away from the last couple blocks on bourbon and towards Canal.

as for the victims. I HOPE THEY GET EVERY PENNY THEY CAN!!!!

And if that means bankrupting all involved. so be it!

and for some insider knowledge, that driver could have done even worse damage had he come the other side of Bourbon thru the “Rainbow Doatrict side”, he could have maybe been able to drive in impeded much longer and created even more casualties. They never have those barricades up except for
around that 3-4th block area. and good things the construction projects ALWAYA LAST SO LONG, otherwise that excavator or crane that stoped the muslim POS would not have been there. and we could have had at least fitness casualties!

I hope this finally puts enough heat on TEEDY the Mongloid and the Feda put it together with all the laws she has broken and corruption and send that scumbag to prison!

as for Mer. Carl and Hard Rock, if they were negligent, then they should pay to the fullest extent like all involved!
Posted by Mandtgr47
Member since Aug 2024
7918 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 2:10 pm to
quote:

RogerTheShrubber


You know when I first started posting here, I thought you were decent. I lived in Alaska a few years, so I have some respect for that, and that great State.

However, I honestly believe that Trump has broken you. The takes you post now, are 100% dem, and I'm not kidding.

The DEI hires of that City are an embarrassment to this state, and are largely responsible for the families of the victims never seeing there loved ones again. They failed in almost every aspect of keeping the individuals of that City and the visitors, safe. Sure, things happen.....but there are also standards that must be met in order to provide the safest environment possible. They FAILED MISERABLY. But you, to actually show support for those failures, says everything about you.
Posted by Mandtgr47
Member since Aug 2024
7918 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 2:14 pm to
quote:

4cubbies


you are too liberal and stupid to understand the bigger picture of tourism, so I'm not even going to attempt to explain it to you.
Posted by bayou2
New Orleans, LA
Member since Feb 2007
3919 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 2:14 pm to


quote:

The suit names the City of New Orleans and two contractors — Mott MacDonald, LLC and Hard Rock Construction, LLC — who the plaintiffs say were responsible for drawing up the security plans for Bourbon Street and installing new barriers.


... oh but you have "plausible deniability " in the mix for Hard Rick constr. ..


Morris Bart interview last night on WGNO

Hard Rick submitted a memo that described an attack situation 18 months prior

To the very letter, of what would happen ...

it's like the terrorist had that memo in his hands, doing everything it described ...



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Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 2:14 pm to
quote:



You know when I first started posting here, I thought you were decent


I have no idea who the frick you are, nor do I even care


Youve fallen victim to Progressivism, and want to blame larger society for the actions of one single individual. frick that retardation.

This has nothing to do with Trump, Forrest, youre just a whiny little bitch.
This post was edited on 1/10/25 at 2:16 pm
Posted by bayou2
New Orleans, LA
Member since Feb 2007
3919 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 2:27 pm to


... one important aspect is starting to surface ...

The donation money for the victims ...

the "power that be" are trying really, really hard to funnel it all to one source --- that city Philanthropy Center on Lee Circle

Trying to mesh it together with Salvation Army, red cross, catholic charities, etc. etc.

one big money bag

saying that if you get your donations through this you will not be taxed like "go-fund-me"

Make no mistake , they want very dollar to be had
..



Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128849 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 2:29 pm to
It looked to me like Mott McDonald had met with city officials to have the city officials decide how to proceed with the project. The city was supposed to make their own scoring matrix for the project.

Anyone can get sued.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57898 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 2:38 pm to
quote:

I honestly believe that Trump has broken you. The takes you post now, are 100% dem, and I'm not kidding.


It's dem to be sue happy and want to get a quick payday.

I don't see how the contractors are legally liable for barricades not being in place. The contractor constructs the bollards. Once constructed the city takes ownership. If the bollards are defective then that is on the city inspectors if they didn't do their job, or the contractor if responsible. If the city decided to remove the bollards until new ones could be put in, then again, that is the city's job to put in place substitute safety protections that are sufficient to meet the stated goal.

Not sure how the contractors are at fault here, unless they never finished the project and never put up temporary bollards, assuming temporary protection was spec'd out by the owner (the city).

Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89840 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 2:46 pm to
quote:

was killed by police.


Well after killing people and firing at the police.


We know y’all have a soft spot for the criminals, but this one deserved to be put down.
Posted by FMtTXtiger
Member since Oct 2018
5322 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 2:50 pm to
Seems like it's the govt that should be on the hook. Stating they had materials that were recommended to prevent what happened and didn't do it.

On camera stating she didn't know they had them, but did.

Doesn't seem like a contractor fault.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57898 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 2:52 pm to
quote:

Seems like it's the govt that should be on the hook. Stating they had materials that were recommended to prevent what happened and didn't do it.

On camera stating she didn't know they had them, but did.

Doesn't seem like a contractor fault.


This is a rational and logical take. This board has been the furthest thing from rational the last few weeks. It's quite interesting to see.
Posted by JackieTreehorn
Member since Sep 2013
35576 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 2:52 pm to
I hope they take every cent from that hell hole.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 2:55 pm to
quote:

There is ZERO REASON those barricades should not have been engaged and in full force.


Would not have stopped this guy from killing people.

Posted by winkchance
St. George, LA
Member since Jul 2016
6677 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 3:06 pm to
Contractors are handling public safety?
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