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re: CIA Kept Soviet Cancer Research Classified for 64 Years
Posted on 3/9/26 at 4:49 pm to AlterEd
Posted on 3/9/26 at 4:49 pm to AlterEd
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It's one thing to say we need more robust studies, but it is dishonest to say there isn't evidence that it works in humans
You have mischaracterized his comments all thread. There is no clinical evidence it works in humans. That’s not debatable. It works in a dish. There are anecdotal reports. But there are no clinical studies.
Should there be? Sure they study everything else.
Is there today? No, no there is not.
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 4:52 pm to slackster
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You have mischaracterized his comments all thread.
No I haven't. Stop lying.
And I just presented him with evidence that it works in humans and he agreed.
Did you miss his reply?
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Yeah, that's fair. Case reports are near the starting point of the funnel we were talking about earlier.
This post was edited on 3/9/26 at 4:53 pm
Posted on 3/9/26 at 5:17 pm to AlterEd
To be fair, that case series was retracted because Makis didn't disclose he was selling the medication on his web site himself.
But if it was legit findings, your point stands, but he's right, it's thin to base medical treatment recs on, though you're right maybe it bears more research.
But if it was legit findings, your point stands, but he's right, it's thin to base medical treatment recs on, though you're right maybe it bears more research.
Posted on 3/9/26 at 5:20 pm to AlterEd
Who owns the pharmaceutical companies?
Posted on 3/9/26 at 5:23 pm to TigerDoc
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though you're right maybe it bears more research.
Luckily there is at least one clinical trial underway studying ivermectin's ability to fight breast cancer. Along with preclinical and lab studies as well.
These things are being studied now. Thankfully.
Posted on 3/9/26 at 5:50 pm to Cosmo
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Fenbendazole and ivermectin cost next to nothing comparatively.
Great
They dont work on cancer
My Brother, who was diagnosed with Stage 4 Kidney cancer that had spread to his left lung, liver and lymph nodes ... was diagnosed last July and was told it was too far advanced to treat with chemo and radiation ... was told when he left the oncologist's office that day, "we're going to try to keep you alive as long as possible ... our goal is to slow down the spread and growth of the tumors."
He called me while leaving the office that day and we went to work doing research.
They started him on immunotherapy injections the following week. And he started himself on Fenbendazole and ivermectin without telling the oncologist at the University of Michigan Medical School.
I just got off the phone with him about two hours ago.
Latest results.
The tumor on his kidney has shunk by 9mm.
The tumors on his liver and left lung are gone.
The oncologist was nothing short of amazed. She literally used the word "miraculous."
He still hasn't told her that he's been hammering Fenbendazole and ivermectin. He started out by getting it from tractor supply and dosing by running the paste down the length of his finger and licking it off but then, while we were in NOLA, he found a pharmacy that sold it to him in pill form.
Take that fwiw but those are the facts. That's going on in my family right now.
Posted on 3/9/26 at 5:56 pm to scrooster
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The oncologist was nothing short of amazed. She literally used the word "miraculous."
When my wife was diagnosed stage four uterine cancer she started on fenbendazole tablets right away. After doctors telling her that they wouldn't be able to cure it and that it would kill her she went back 3 months later for a PET scan and the report read, "remarkable recovery! Almost no evidence of disease seen."
The anti-parasitics work. Without a doubt. Her doctors were amazed.
Posted on 3/9/26 at 6:15 pm to AlterEd
NIH Repot on parasitic pathogens
Scroll down to get the list of the parasitic pathogens and the cancer they cause.
It can't hurt to use an antiparasitic drug to combat parasites. Now different drugs tackle different types of parasites. one size dont fit all. So a protocol needs to be established for your type of cancer.
The reason oncologist and the medical profession aren't utilizing these treatments is because they are all owned by the large hospital companies who determine how they practice medicine. they are not free to deviate from the hospital companies protocols or they loose their position.
Scroll down to get the list of the parasitic pathogens and the cancer they cause.
It can't hurt to use an antiparasitic drug to combat parasites. Now different drugs tackle different types of parasites. one size dont fit all. So a protocol needs to be established for your type of cancer.
The reason oncologist and the medical profession aren't utilizing these treatments is because they are all owned by the large hospital companies who determine how they practice medicine. they are not free to deviate from the hospital companies protocols or they loose their position.
Posted on 3/9/26 at 6:17 pm to AlterEd
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Exactly. It's almost as if there is a nefarious agenda behind it.
Nah, it’s the problem with government.
Posted on 3/9/26 at 6:18 pm to AlterEd
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Fenbendazole and ivermectin cost next to nothing comparatively.
Neither of those have significant clinical evidence to back their effectiveness as cancer treatment.
Posted on 3/9/26 at 6:19 pm to TIGA 80
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Now different drugs tackle different types of parasites. one size dont fit all. So a protocol needs to be established for your type of cancer.
Right. Which is why I suggested people should go seek out people who have experience treating people this way. My wife was put on a regimen of several different things to take. Fenbendazole, Tudca, various vitamins, lion's mane and cordyceps mushroom powder, curcumin powder, etc.
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The reason oncologist and the medical profession aren't utilizing these treatments is because they are all owned by the large hospital companies who determine how they practice medicine. they are not free to deviate from the hospital companies protocols or they loose their position.
And unfortunately this is the truth. We need more clinical trials done on this stuff badly.
Posted on 3/9/26 at 6:24 pm to Sweep Da Leg
Study? They have independent journalist looking at it for them, just look at Suzyq17 on twitter, baw.
He’s a clown.
He’s a clown.
Posted on 3/9/26 at 6:27 pm to doubleb
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Nah, it’s the problem with government.
You missed the point there. We were talking about why the Soviets didn't pursue the research further themselves. They didn't either. Stalin stepped in and shut down the people who were doing this research and put them on trial for cooperating with Americans. So it isn't just our government. It's governments, plural.
Posted on 3/9/26 at 6:28 pm to AlterEd
As much money as the pharma industry makes, the insurance industry is even bigger and advanced cancer is their biggest expense. If the Soviets had this info 70 years ago, why isnt Russia a medical tourism magnet? There are 130 countries on earth and every single one would have to be in on it for it to be a cover up. There is no magic bullet for cancer.
Posted on 3/9/26 at 6:28 pm to TIGA 80
why do you think the FDA , the medical profession, demonized ivermectin during the covid epidemic? They didnt want the public to find out that these antiviral and antiparasitic medicines also worked on cancer. They didnt want their cash cow of cancer cured.
This knowledge has been kept from us for decades. If it could be proven that the FDA has kept this from us for financial gain, imagine the legal ramifications. the lawyers would have a field day.
This knowledge has been kept from us for decades. If it could be proven that the FDA has kept this from us for financial gain, imagine the legal ramifications. the lawyers would have a field day.
Posted on 3/9/26 at 6:37 pm to Mobile Patriot
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If the Soviets had this info 70 years ago, why isnt Russia a medical tourism magnet
It's not a question if they did or they didn't. They did. That's the entire point of the thread. And as I've explained twice now, they shut down their research on the stuff as well. It's been buried for 70 years and both governments have known about it.
Posted on 3/9/26 at 6:38 pm to TIGA 80
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Right. Which is why I suggested people should go seek out people who have experience treating people this way.
This is the problem. My local dr. was prescribing ivermectin during the epedemic and out of 500 patients, not a one was hospitalized. The next time i went to see him, told me he couldnt prescribe ivermectin anymore. He is an independent dr. So it had to be his liability ins. or the hospital that he is associated with that told him to stop.
Finding a Doctor who is knowledgeble on the protocol and is willing to treat you with non FDA approved protocol is taking a risk with his profession. if you know of a source to find such doctors please post the link
Posted on 3/9/26 at 6:40 pm to TIGA 80
As I said previously, if it were me and I were diagnosed with cancer, I would go to Facebook and look for the fenbendazole support group page.
Posted on 3/9/26 at 7:03 pm to ChanceOfRainIsNever
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Because pharmaceutical companies can’t make money if people are cured
Winner
Posted on 3/9/26 at 7:20 pm to HeadSlash
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Winner
Yep. Treating cancer is huge business.
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