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re: Church of England Priests Say Premarital, Gay Sex Not Immoral
Posted on 8/31/23 at 11:07 am to The Maj
Posted on 8/31/23 at 11:07 am to The Maj
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They have been given over to a reprobate mind and exchanged the Truth for a lie... This was foretold just as people will seek those that tell them what they want to hear rather than what is right...
Many parents left the churches they had attended for many years for "accepting" ones, once one of their kids came out of the closet.
These parents are foolish putting their childs immoral behavior above God, instead of working thru it in a way would any other sins their child was fighting through. Ie...substance abuse or sex addiction, etc.
People like this are weak minded, no matter how "educated" they are.
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Posted on 8/31/23 at 11:08 am to Azkiger
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Support for gay marriage has gone from 41 to 78% in Britain in the last decade.
There were 1.3 million Muslims in the greater London area in 2021, do you think they polled them? In the UK, speech can get you thrown in prison. Do you think those polled felt free to speak their beliefs?
Supporting gay marriage has frickall to do with whether it should be church sanctioned.
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I'm not arguing whether they should or shouldn't conform. Just that they're being forced to choose between conforming or, eventually, closing their doors and preaching in their living room.
I'm not even a particularly good Christian, but I would bet the farm that in the eyes of God, shutting their doors and preaching from their living room is the only acceptable option given, since the other involves sanctioning sin.
Posted on 8/31/23 at 11:13 am to Azkiger
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Not quite.
Do you live by a moral code?
If so, why? Where did it come from?
And no, obviously a person who believes in a purpose isn’t a nihilist by definition. I’m saying you should be a nihilist, logically, but you’re probably not. You have a “religion” just as surely as the theist or the Jainist.
Posted on 8/31/23 at 11:14 am to troyt37
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There were 1.3 million Muslims in the greater London area in 2021, do you think they polled them?
Even if they didn't, it still shows how the native Brit population is trending.
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In the UK, speech can get you thrown in prison.
Any links for someone being jailed for answering a poll?
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Do you think those polled felt free to speak their beliefs?
It wasn't 99/1 for Christ's sake. It was 78/22.
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I'm not even a particularly good Christian, but I would bet the farm that in the eyes of God, shutting their doors and preaching from their living room is the only acceptable option given, since the other involves sanctioning sin.
You think the 10 people in your living room are going to be enough to subsidize your living expenses?
Posted on 8/31/23 at 11:17 am to Azkiger
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You think if we didn't accept homosexuality, homosexuals would just go into heterosexual relationships?
No, they would live in their sin like they had up to just a decade ago. They could eventually come to the realization that it's not a proper lifestyle and work on moving past it. Just like any straight person with sex addiction issues.
As Christians we understand the premarital sex is a negative/sin, and we see how the normalization of straight version of it has hurt society. And now we are adding even more perverse versions, so we are not looking at improving society but continuing down the wrong path.
Christians understand we are all sinful in our own ways. We are told what those sins are and told how to get past them or help control them. The normalization of known sins is straight evil.
And now we are openly indocrinating children into a lifestyle that has no societal benefit. Slippery slope of destruction is our path no doubt.
Posted on 8/31/23 at 11:24 am to Flats
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Do you live by a moral code?
Yes.
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If so, why?
Because I live in a world full of other people, and because we interact with each other daily its very useful to have rules for those interactions.
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Where did it come from?
My tendency to prefer pleasure over pain.
I don't want to be stabbed. Most other people don't want to be stabbed either. So we all made an agreement to not stab one another, and to punish/separate from people who do stab.
How many more questions do you need to ask to connect atheism and Nihilism by logical necessity?
Posted on 8/31/23 at 11:24 am to Azkiger
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Any links for someone being jailed for answering a poll?
LINK
What if the poll workers report what they are told?
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You think the 10 people in your living room are going to be enough to subsidize your living expenses?
They wouldn't need to. In any scenario you can imagine, preaching the gospel in your living room > burning in hell for eternity.
Posted on 8/31/23 at 11:27 am to hogcard1964
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It's really gay and immoral to have gay premarital sex
I guess my mom is the ultimate arbiter on such matters. She always said, "it's a sin to have sex with someone you don't love." She didn't make a distinction between gay and straight sex, nor between marriage or being unmarried.
Posted on 8/31/23 at 11:28 am to KAGTASTIC
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No, they would live in their sin like they had up to just a decade ago. They could eventually come to the realization that it's not a proper lifestyle and work on moving past it.
So you really think the continuation of the human species rests on gay people having straight sex?
Posted on 8/31/23 at 11:30 am to Azkiger
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You think the 10 people in your living room are going to be enough to subsidize your living expenses?
This is odd. As if people can't have a regular job for living expenses while having small bible studies.
Posted on 8/31/23 at 11:33 am to troyt37
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What if the poll workers report what they are told?
That someone said "Yes" or "No" to a question?
Nothing at all.
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They wouldn't need to. In any scenario you can imagine, preaching the gospel in your living room > burning in hell for eternity.
Easy to pretend it's so simple while your kids currently have a roof over their heads and food in their stomachs.
Posted on 8/31/23 at 11:34 am to KAGTASTIC
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This is odd. As if people can't have a regular job for living expenses while having small bible studies.
Sorry, I thought we were talking about professional preachers.
I guess that 45 year old life long pastor can take his masters in divinity and get a job elsewhere. I mean, he has a masters after all.
Posted on 8/31/23 at 11:36 am to djmed
Whew, good thing we have this book called the Bible and common sense to allow normal people to figure out the truth and not listen to these devil worshipers.
Posted on 8/31/23 at 11:40 am to djmed
The Bible predicted this.
Posted on 8/31/23 at 11:42 am to Eli Goldfinger
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The Bible predicted this.
That the CoE would bend the knee to homosexuality?
Posted on 8/31/23 at 11:46 am to Azkiger
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Because I live in a world full of other people, and because we interact with each other daily its very useful to have rules for those interactions.
That’s pragmatism, not morality. For people with a different morality than you it makes perfect sense to ignore those rules when you get a net gain out of it. It’s perfectly logical to steal if you think you won’t get caught; people make that decision every day. If you lived in another culture would you automatically adopt their moral code?
Posted on 8/31/23 at 11:47 am to Azkiger
For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths.
2 Peter 2:1
2 Peter 2:1
Posted on 8/31/23 at 11:49 am to Azkiger
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Easy to pretend it's so simple while your kids currently have a roof over their heads and food in their stomachs.
It is simple, goofball. The gospel tells us that sin is the thing that keeps us from God. Sin is sin, whether you live in a mansion, or a cardboard box. Sin is sin, whether you eat caviar every day, or haven't eaten in 2 weeks. Moral relativism is bullshite. Sorry if it hurts your feelings. I am a sinner. You are a sinner. I ask God for forgiveness of my sins and change my life so that I don't commit those sins anymore. You try to justify sin because polls and public opinion, and act like God would care if the churches not only accepting sin but tolerating it to the point of promotion would no longer be financially viable. WTF?
Posted on 8/31/23 at 11:49 am to Eli Goldfinger
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2 Peter 2:1
BOOM!
Posted on 8/31/23 at 11:50 am to Azkiger
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So you really think the continuation of the human species rests on gay people having straight sex?
Well people aren't gay by nature, but by choice. With that said, what I do know is that the continuation of the human species only happens via hetero sex.
In the past the # of homos was low and not impactful to societal growth, just like abortion was prior to roe. The normalization of abortion has killed 60+mil Americans, which has caused negative affects including forcing rampant illegal immigration to make up for it. The normalization of homosexuality and other perverse sexual behaviors, especially at an early age, will increase our societies birth rate issues.
Our natural low birth rate issue is connected to many negatives promoted, negatives that have veered away from what had been followed via The Bibles teachings. Issue should be with why a political party/leaning push behaviors that are 100% negative for society. Especially when it hampers the natural production of the societys/govts "widget," which is it's people and nothing else.
At the end of the day, this doesnt even have to be a religious argument. Anyone that just believes in Mother Nature can't disagree, as by nature homosexuality isnt an acceptable form of societal growth. No matter how much people tell the gays they are no different, it's 100% false. Nothing can be done about that by anyone, no matter how hard people want to make it so. It's impossible and that's a fact.
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