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re: Chud the Builder case will be a referendum on self defense in America.

Posted on 5/15/26 at 10:07 pm to
Posted by JasonDBlaha
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Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 5/15/26 at 10:07 pm to
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bhtigerfan
your rekt because your crush is getting the FO portion after FA


Get help
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 5/15/26 at 10:08 pm to
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Biggest problem is he allegedly said before the incident that he wanted to go instigate people until they fight, and then he'd shoot them. If that is indeed true and they have the video, that's premeditation and he's fricked.


Exactly.

I got downvoted for saying the same thing, but it's kind of obvious.

If he really did put it out on the web beforehand that his goal was to bait someone into a physical altercation so that he could shoot them, he's going up the river.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 5/15/26 at 10:11 pm to
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One of the things that distinguishes humans from animals is self control. What you’re describing is animalistic. Hurting someone’s feelings doesn’t justify attacking them.


This is going to be very fact specific on their interaction, but I’m not sure I have an obligation to let a provocateur continue to engage me in my personal space until or unless he throws the first punch.

Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 5/15/26 at 10:11 pm to
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Dejuan brown stabbed a random white girl in the neck with four other blacks around at the time. None of them did anything to help.


A black man tended to her if I remember correctly, but yeah, the others either left her to bleed or they ran away in panic.

It was shameful.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/15/26 at 10:13 pm to
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One of the things that distinguishes humans from animals is self control.


Humans lose self control, every single one of us does many times.

Thats a great little sentence, but it doesnt address reality.
Posted by GRTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 5/15/26 at 10:15 pm to
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One of the things that distinguishes humans from animals is self control


Another is self-awareness
Posted by JasonDBlaha
Woodlands, Texas
Member since Apr 2023
4898 posts
Posted on 5/15/26 at 10:17 pm to
Chud posted an X tweet like a week before saying he was going to start shite. Its screenshots are floating around on X even though it was deleted.

He’s fricked. That’s basically fed-posting. The prosecution will most certainly use that against him.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 5/15/26 at 10:21 pm to
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Thats a great little sentence, but it doesnt address reality.


No one said you aren’t allowed to be upset, or to respond with your own choice of words. But to attack as a form of response isn’t justified.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
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Posted on 5/15/26 at 10:22 pm to
So if a boss fires someone for being late, they should be self aware that there’s a possibility that person they just fired would be angered and then attack?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 5/15/26 at 10:25 pm to
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No one said you aren’t allowed to be upset, or to respond with your own choice of words. But to attack as a form of response isn’t justified.




It ignores reality, that out of 100 people you insult, there will be at least double-digit numbers of arse kickings.


Particularly if the info is true that he set this up to kill a black guy.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
14235 posts
Posted on 5/15/26 at 10:27 pm to
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Humans lose self control, every single one of us does many times.


Perhaps the greatest simple, observational argument for Christianity.

Humans universally have a sense of how we ought to conduct ourselves, both internally and externally, and none of us can actually live up to our own standards.

Quite true.

However, if you can't recognize the gaping chasm between the degree to which we are able to sublimate our innate desires and instincts compared to even the most intelligent and social animals, I don't know what to tell you.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 5/15/26 at 10:29 pm to
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However, if you can't recognize the gaping chasm between the degree to which we are able to sublimate our innate desires and instincts compared to even the most intelligent and social animals, I don't know what to tell you.


It all sounds great on paper, but reality shows humans can be very irrational.

Ive never hit a guy for insulting me. You probably havent either, but there's an entire underworld that would.

Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
14235 posts
Posted on 5/15/26 at 10:30 pm to
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But to attack as a form of response isn’t justified.


I agree with you.

The black guy in the story is probably guilty of assault, and I would support him being prosecuted for it.

But if the shooter really did post before the attack happened that it was his plan and his goal to bait someone into attacking him physically so that he could shoot them, he's guilty too. Probably of attempted murder.

Posted by Neutral Underground
Member since Mar 2024
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Posted on 5/15/26 at 10:31 pm to
Chud is the sacrificial lamb. Wicker man style. They are going to crucify him for what he represents. You shouldn't be attacked just for using words, but if he was actually trying to provoke a reaction so that he could shoot them. He is royally fooked. I am very ambiguous towards this case. I don't think that he will get a fair trial.
Posted by JasonDBlaha
Woodlands, Texas
Member since Apr 2023
4898 posts
Posted on 5/15/26 at 10:31 pm to
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Perhaps the greatest simple, observational argument for Christianity.


Chud is a Christian lol
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
14235 posts
Posted on 5/15/26 at 10:33 pm to
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reality shows humans can be very irrational.


"Reality" also shows that humans are many orders of magnitude more rational than animals.

Find me an animal that can understand trigonometry, write an opera, build a skyscraper, or perform open heart surgery.

All that frontal lobe ain't for nothing. That's the rational part of the brain.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
85911 posts
Posted on 5/15/26 at 10:33 pm to
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Chud is the sacrificial lamb. Wicker man style. They are going to crucify him for what he represents. You shouldn't be attacked just for using words, but if he was actually trying to provoke a reaction so that he could shoot them. He is royally fooked. I am very ambiguous towards this case. I don't think that he will get a fair trial.


So are you donating to his legal defense fund or not?
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
14235 posts
Posted on 5/15/26 at 10:34 pm to
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Chud is a Christian


So?

Nothing about Chud opposes what I said.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 5/15/26 at 10:35 pm to
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"Reality" also shows that humans are many orders of magnitude more rational than animals.


Im not even sure what youre arguing.

Humans can be irrational and violent and that seems to be something you disagree with.'

If the info is true that this was his intended outcome, would it change your perception?
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