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re: Christie Says Transgender Procedures on Minors Should Be Allowed If Parents Consent
Posted on 6/18/23 at 10:03 pm to the808bass
Posted on 6/18/23 at 10:03 pm to the808bass
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Posted on 6/18/23 at 10:09 pm to Trevaylin
Christie Kreme can
EABOD
EABOD
Posted on 6/18/23 at 10:17 pm to ItzMe1972
if they don't let you buy a firearm until you're 21, you shouldn't be able to chop your junk off until then either.
Posted on 6/18/23 at 10:22 pm to ItzMe1972
Who
Posted on 6/18/23 at 10:23 pm to ItzMe1972
Any parent(s) that do that or allow that to be done to their own children should by all rights have their children taken from them.
Posted on 6/18/23 at 10:26 pm to ItzMe1972
I honestly don't see how any true Republican could NOT be torn on this issue.
On the one hand, it is an important premise of the Republican agenda that parents (and not the State) should be making medical decisions for their children.
On the other hand, transgender transition care (especially surgery, but also drugs to a lesser extent) have PERMANENT effects, and it seems like only the person most affected (the "patient" for lack of a better term) should make that call, AFTER his/her brain has matured to the point of being reasonably-capable of making rational decisions.
What I DO NOT understand is the purported Republicans who attack fellow Republicans for emphasizing one of those concerns over the other. It seems damned RINO-ish to attack a fellow Republican because he prioritizes two conflicting Republican issues differently than you do.
On the one hand, it is an important premise of the Republican agenda that parents (and not the State) should be making medical decisions for their children.
On the other hand, transgender transition care (especially surgery, but also drugs to a lesser extent) have PERMANENT effects, and it seems like only the person most affected (the "patient" for lack of a better term) should make that call, AFTER his/her brain has matured to the point of being reasonably-capable of making rational decisions.
What I DO NOT understand is the purported Republicans who attack fellow Republicans for emphasizing one of those concerns over the other. It seems damned RINO-ish to attack a fellow Republican because he prioritizes two conflicting Republican issues differently than you do.
This post was edited on 6/18/23 at 10:36 pm
Posted on 6/18/23 at 10:28 pm to ItzMe1972
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Posted on 6/18/23 at 10:30 pm to AggieHank86
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I honestly don't see how any true Republican could NOT be torn on this issue
Yes fake lawyer, we know you support the sexualization of children.
Posted on 6/18/23 at 11:37 pm to tarzana
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to obtain gender-affirming care for a child born with the wrong apparatus.
Wish your apparatus was removed.
Posted on 6/18/23 at 11:42 pm to AggieHank86
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I honestly don't see how any true Republican could NOT be torn on this issue.
Given you know the frequency of the occurrence of the issue (1/30,000 or so boys and virtually 0/all girls ), the treatment for the rare occurrence and the efficacy of those treatments before radical left wing ideologues got into the field....
I don't know how you can possibly be torn.
This isn't a medical issue, this is lying monsters convincing parents to mutilate children.
Exactly how far are you willing to take your feckless contrarianism?
Posted on 6/19/23 at 2:06 am to ItzMe1972
I dislike Christie, but he's correct.
Id fully disagree with anyone who did that to their kids, but it aint my business and it damned sure shouldnt be the govt business. Especially the federal govt. Pass the decision to the states. Then the states should then pass it to the counties/parishes. Its worked for alcohol sales, and it'd be the best solution for this issue as well, IMO.
I dont think it's the same as abortion. Maybe worse in some ways. But the basis for my opinion is based on my opinion for abortion.
Id fully disagree with anyone who did that to their kids, but it aint my business and it damned sure shouldnt be the govt business. Especially the federal govt. Pass the decision to the states. Then the states should then pass it to the counties/parishes. Its worked for alcohol sales, and it'd be the best solution for this issue as well, IMO.
I dont think it's the same as abortion. Maybe worse in some ways. But the basis for my opinion is based on my opinion for abortion.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 3:02 am to tarzana
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don't think for a moment there isn't an outcry from parents who have to travel up to 1,000 miles to obtain gender-affirming care for a child born with the wrong apparatus.
•Those parents should have their children removed by child protective services.
•“Born with the wrong apparatus” isn’t a thing.
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Gender-affirming care, like marriage and abortion, is another cultural wedge issue that Republicans always seem to be on the wrong side of.
•”Gender affirming care” is a grotesque nonsensical euphemism created by the Left to make palatable child abuse, genital mutilation, and proselytizing. It has nothing to do with biological gender, affirmation, or care.
•You are correct that abortion, same-sex “marriage”, and this transgender nonsense are wedge issues. They’ve been strategically and tactically used to destroy and displace the single most critical building block of healthy societies, traditional families.
Like Florida’s pythons, something foreign, invasive, and destructive has been introduced to the previously healthy ecosystem that will ultimately destroy it by killing off the native natural species.
You’ve lost your way and are on the wrong side of right and wrong, calling evil good and good evil.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 3:34 am to ItzMe1972
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And I just would say the parents are the people who are best positioned to make these judgments.
ORLY
He was governor of New Jersey when the state took custody of a kid because his parents named him Adolf Hitler.
He didn't hesitate to have the state interfere in those parental judgements.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 4:35 am to ItzMe1972
Can't drink a beer until 21 but can whack you pecker off at 9??????
Christie makes Paul Ryan look conservative.
Hell isn't deep enough for these people Washington and state legislators pushing thjs stuff.
Christie makes Paul Ryan look conservative.
Hell isn't deep enough for these people Washington and state legislators pushing thjs stuff.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 5:13 am to tarzana
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Gender-affirming care, like marriage and abortion, is another cultural wedge issue that Republicans always seem to be on the wrong side of.
Almost like that’s why those points get so much media attention
Posted on 6/19/23 at 5:15 am to ItzMe1972
18 for tattoos, but parts removal ok at 12?
Nope.
Nope.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 5:37 am to ItzMe1972
Same guy who closed NJ state parks during Covid.
He was above his laws and vacationed there with his family.
Pissed off a lot of NJ voters.
Now he is a political hack on ABC.
He was above his laws and vacationed there with his family.
Pissed off a lot of NJ voters.
Now he is a political hack on ABC.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 6:11 am to AggieHank86
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AggieHank86
Here is the thing Hank: whatever your opinion about Christie’s pronouncement on this entire “transgender” agenda, the Federal Government has NO business determining how the individual states approach this contentious issue. I honestly don't see how any true Republican can be torn on that salient point.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 6:15 am to AggieHank86
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Republican agenda that parents (and not the State) should be making medical decisions for their children.
It's not a medical decision. It isn't medicine.
Was the Tuskegee experiment just a medical decision? The things the doctors did during the Holocaust just a medical decision?
This post was edited on 6/19/23 at 6:17 am
Posted on 6/19/23 at 6:38 am to Stingray
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It's not a medical decision. It isn't medicine.
Should doctors empower and encourage minors who have body image dysphoria and suffer from anorexia nervosa?
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