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re: Christians who somehow thought it wasn’t Christianlike to vote for Trump

Posted on 9/6/25 at 1:21 pm to
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
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Posted on 9/6/25 at 1:21 pm to
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Morality as always has been a mans invention it far predates the Christian religion anyways.


Well sure, because Christianity wasn't a thing till Jesus.

You're saying things in an effort to look intelligent that instead make you look ignorant.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 9/6/25 at 1:21 pm to
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This thought process is what created the greatest country in the history of the world, the USA.


No a bunch of merchant deists created the country to avoid taxes from the British and determine their own destiny.

It was never about a Christian god
Posted by imjustafatkid
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 9/6/25 at 1:22 pm to
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No a bunch of merchant deists created the country to avoid taxes from the British and determine their own destiny.

It was never about a Christian god


you're a cartoon
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 9/6/25 at 1:22 pm to
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Morality as always has been a mans invention it far predates the Christian religion anyways.
If the Christian faith is true, then morality predates mankind, as the moral law reflects the eternal and unchangeable holy character of God, who made man in His image, including with the moral law written on his heart as reflected by the conscience.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 9/6/25 at 1:24 pm to
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you're a cartoon


From the founding fathers literature what makes you think we were founded a with a mindset to promote the Christian faith?
Posted by Prodigal Son
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 9/6/25 at 1:32 pm to
Does your salvation depend upon your ability to perfectly understand theology?
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 9/6/25 at 1:46 pm to
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Does your salvation depend upon your ability to perfectly understand theology?
Not at all, but there are truths that must be professed and truths that must not be denied. Not understanding fully is not the same as not understanding at all.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 9/6/25 at 1:46 pm to
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the Christian faith is true, then morality predates mankind, as the moral law reflects the eternal and unchangeable holy character of God, who made man in His image, including with the moral law written on his heart as reflected by the conscience.


That's a big if. Hell christians can't agree on much besides Jesus about their own religion.
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 9/6/25 at 1:47 pm to
Romans 10:9

"if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved".
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 9/6/25 at 1:49 pm to
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That's a big if. Hell christians can't agree on much besides Jesus about their own religion.
Regardless, the chronology of Christianity becoming an official religion doesn’t change the truth of moral absolutes predating “Christianity” as such, from my perspective.
Posted by Canon951
Member since May 2020
385 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 1:58 pm to
You "works" based guys are so biblically illiterate it is shameful. Ya'll cherry pick verses without understanding the context and make it a doctrine. The whole new testament is about faith alone in Christ alone instead of keeping the law/works. If it is faith plus works, they already had that in the Jewish religion. They had to have faith and evidenced it by keeping the law and sacrifices, etc. Jesus was the perfect once and for all sacrifice. It is FINISHED. God didn't let his son get brutally murdered just to make the requirements the same.

John 6
28 Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?”

29 Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”

38 For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me. 39 And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all those he has given me, but raise them up at the last day. 40 For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.”

Posted by Squirrelmeister
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 9/6/25 at 2:02 pm to
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Jesus alone paid the price of our sin-debt against God, and we receive forgiveness when we trust in Jesus alone by faith. If we try to add anything to our salvation, we say what Jesus did wasn’t enough, and we do not have the gospel.

Well Foo, you might as well be a piece of shite then. Go rob some banks, rape some women, murder anyone you don’t like. Because you’re a worthless sinner. There’s no good you can do to earn your eternal spot in paradise. Just believe real hard and you’ll die and enter eternal paradise with the people you raped and murdered.

Go ahead and tell Jesus he doesn’t need to come to make the final judgment. Explain to Jesus it doesn’t matter how people lived their lives, only that they believed in him.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
20136 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 2:02 pm to
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So he doesn’t understand the doctrine. Doesn’t take away from his kindness towards Christians


Obviously Trump's statements do not agree with NT soteriology - by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone.

But I think he acknowledges God and I'm grateful to God first and Trump that he does and that Trump has championed religious freedom from his early days of candidacy circa 2015.

Now, I wished he would see the perversion inherent in homosexuality.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 9/6/25 at 2:11 pm to
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Well Foo, you might as well be a piece of shite then. Go rob some banks, rape some women, murder anyone you don’t like. Because you’re a worthless sinner. There’s no good you can do to earn your eternal spot in paradise. Just believe real hard and you’ll die and enter eternal paradise with the people you raped and murdered.

Go ahead and tell Jesus he doesn’t need to come to make the final judgment. Explain to Jesus it doesn’t matter how people lived their lives, only that they believed in him.
I won’t bother to respond to this other than to ask that you read the rest of my responses in this thread.
Posted by thejuiceisloose
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 9/6/25 at 2:16 pm to
That X post is just a world salad but hits key buzzwords so people lap it up...smh
Posted by jammajin
Member since Jul 2024
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Posted on 9/6/25 at 2:17 pm to
you must be really fun at parties.......
Posted by Padme
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 9/6/25 at 2:19 pm to
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
26308 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 2:23 pm to
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That is a works-based salvation, and not a Christ-based salvation.


quote:

Do this in remembrance of me.


Why don't you follow the bible?
Posted by RohanGonzales
Member since Apr 2024
8217 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 2:28 pm to
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Because he knows what his base wants to hear


You know nothing Trump and his relationship with his base.
Posted by Prodigal Son
Member since May 2023
1602 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 2:29 pm to
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denied. Not understanding fully is not the same as not understanding at all.

Can you define “fully”, or “not at all?” Or is that up to God?
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