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Posted on 1/15/18 at 2:28 pm to L.A.
Toddy will defend this because at least it’s not based on their ethnicity or skin color.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 2:29 pm to Revelator
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I wonder why communist fear Christianity so much?
They don’t want people caring about human life, which is cheap in China.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 2:32 pm to Revelator
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I wonder why communist fear Christianity so much?
The spiritual void in humans often filled by faith, in China, is filled by government. Chinese view their leaders as living apostles of Mao. It's very strange.
They keep their people in a bubble. Uninformed and under control.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 2:44 pm to PuddinPopPharmacist
Freedom of religion is a basic human right. Our government however has gone soft on human rights abuses and as was said about the Saudi abuses it is their internal affair and doesn't concern us. We, the USA, have abdicated our position as the world leader of basic human rights. So if Trump is ok with the demolition of the church, then I am too. "President XI is a terrific guy".
Posted on 1/15/18 at 3:22 pm to DownSouthJukin
quote:remind me of the girl's name in your avi. i feel like i've seen her on a show but i can't remember
DownSouthJukin
Posted on 1/15/18 at 3:27 pm to Revelator
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I wonder why communist fear Christianity so much?
Because communism operates like an old testament religion every time it is tried.
- There is one agreed upon doctrine, debate of said doctrine is not allowed.
- Heresy is a capital offense
- There is no evidence for the validity of the doctrine, belief takes faith.
- Any evidence contrary to the doctrine must be either explained away, or buried/shunned.
Nations with a state religion don't like competing ones.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 3:38 pm to NYNolaguy1
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I think this has more to do with Chinese totalitarianism than their "communism".
Its been some time since China was truly communist.
No, it has to do with their Communism. It's the same reason churches were destroyed and religion was extinguished in Communist Russia. Communism must have the belief of the people that government is all knowing. Without it, the basic tenants of communism falter. If you have a church of faith followers listening to the sermons and if any one message may contradict the Communist party ethos, then it means that Communism isn't all-knowing. And that communism is flawed. Communism can only be subjugated upon it's people if the belief is forced upon them that there is no higher power than the Government, and the government is infallible. It's why no one spoke ill of the government in Russia, or they risked interrogation, work camps, the gulag, or death.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 3:41 pm to bfniii
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remind me of the girl's name in your avi. i feel like i've seen her on a show but i can't remember
Shonna Tucker. Former bass player for the Drive By Truckers and ex-eife of Jason Isbell. One of the best pics ever taken of her.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 3:42 pm to DownSouthJukin
quote:matches perfectly with
This country has taken this: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;
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And converted it to this: "There shall be no display of religion or pronouncement of religion in public, government-owned places and/or during public, government-sanctioned activities
Can you not understand how displaying one religion on govt property creates an establishment of religion?
Posted on 1/15/18 at 3:48 pm to mmcgrath
quote:Do you know what "establish" means?
Can you not understand how displaying one religion on govt property creates an establishment of religion?
The point of the amendment was to prevent an official U.S. religion, like the Church of England. It wasn't to separate all aspects of public life from religion but to protect religion from the government.
People today go too far when they want to ban any type of religious expression from the public square.
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Posted on 1/15/18 at 3:57 pm to mmcgrath
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Can you not understand how displaying one religion on govt property creates an establishment of religion?
Holy frick. What kind of mental gymnastics did that just take?
The issue is whether or not allowing a display of religion on public property or at public, government events establishes religion. It does not. It is the free expression of religion. Again, that part of the amendment has been conveniently pushed to the side by a vocal minority with hurt feelings.
Quite frankly, if a group of Muslims, around some Muslim holiday, wanted to put a depiction of Muhammed on a flying carpet in a park, I wouldn't care. And if Jews wanted to erect a Star of David around a Jewish holiday-I'm fine with it.
But bitching and moaning when a high schooler or college student wants to say a prayer at a school-sponsored event is ridiculous, as is banning any display of religion on public, government-owned property for fear of legal retribution (not because it establishes a religion) by Arnold the Atheist or Muhomed the Muslim.
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mmcgrath
Perfect example of what happens when you remove basic civics and U.S. history from the classroom.
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FooManChoo
And the rest of the breathing world gets it.
This post was edited on 1/15/18 at 4:16 pm
Posted on 1/15/18 at 4:24 pm to L.A.
The Church has always flourished the most under persecution
Posted on 1/15/18 at 4:38 pm to L.A.
Christianity has always been the biggest threat to communism no matter the country and time outside of capitalism.
It's the backbone of western civilization and no wonder China sees it as a threat.
It's the backbone of western civilization and no wonder China sees it as a threat.
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