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re: China's Xi To Hold Talks With Zelensky After Meeting Putin

Posted on 3/13/23 at 8:39 pm to
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
13547 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 8:39 pm to
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All this is not my opinion on supporting Ukraine one way or the other. Im just pointing out how Dictators and strongmen operate


I hear ya, just like the dictators who stole California...oh wait that was us, who invaded Mexico just so they could steal the southwestern part of what is now the US.....oh yeah that was us, who coordinated a revolution to form a new country called Panama so we could build a canal....hmmm that was us, who split countries in half in Korea and Vietnam to save them from communism...hmm that was us.

Then when communism died we called a jihad on terrorism and invaded....well a lot of countries....and helped international terrorism flourish along with the drug trade.
Posted by GruntbyAssociation
Member since Jul 2013
3878 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 8:42 pm to
We should’ve shutdown immigration to the U.S. in the year 1900.
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
16281 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 8:43 pm to
Impossible for xi to create peace there. Zelensky is our puppet. Our government is basically demanding Ukraine fight to the last man. Zero chance of peace.

Because our and Ukraine's idea of peace would probably be some shite like demanding Putin be arrested and the entire Russian government be disbanded or something similarly retarded that Russia would never agree with.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
13547 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 8:57 pm to
I dare say zingleberry has gotten, whats that buzzword..."generational" wealth at this point.

Perhaps Xi makes him an offer he cant refuse. Ask yourself, for your own personal safety would you be more afraid of the chinese or this bumbling mess of a govt in the US?

I bet he cashes in the chips and calls it a day. Heck that may be why he is letting his entire army be slaughtered in bachmut so he has an excuse.
Posted by RollingwiththeTide
Member since Oct 2020
3681 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 9:01 pm to
Like I said I was not offering commentary on the war policy in Ukraine. It doesn’t matter if people are for or against helping Ukraine people can figure that out for themselves. All I’m doing is commenting on the man Vlad Putin based off his actions in Ukraine going back about 10 years and using historical knowledge about dictators in general.

A lot of people act like if we can just get Russia and Ukraine to cut a peace deal then everything will be ok. All I’m saying is Putin putting his name on a piece of paper doesn’t mean much and it wouldn’t be outside the realm of possibilities that Putin might sign some kind of peace deal just so he can withdraw and rebuild his military so he can go back in later. Neville Chamberlain can teach you a lot if you let him.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
25448 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 9:05 pm to
Joe’s old pals with Xi, isn’t he? Most foreign policy experience in all of government .

C’mon, man!

Posted by ItNeverRains
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 3/13/23 at 9:13 pm to
100 billion taxpayer dollars later and China will swoop in and get all the credit for negotiating peace and make Zelensky their bottom bitch in the process. Zelensky, a NATO installed puppet, will out geopolitic the entire US intel apparatus. What a fricking joke of a country we are.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
13547 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 9:20 pm to
Putin is not HItler, nor Mugabi or some other lunatic.

So you have to ask yourself, what changed, what brought him to the point of invading, surely something did.

And when you take off your western, propaganda filled glasses, I think most unbiased people will see, the west knew fully well what would trigger it....and they did it purposely and willfully.

Hopefully Xi ends this. And if this administration in the US has another tantrum over the terms and starts threatening countries all over again.....they might just see that the rest of the world is fed up and might start sanctioning them economically, or at least those that manufacture all their goods.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
13547 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 9:25 pm to
So while Blinken and biden are threatening Xi about supporting Russia with weapons and talking to Putin........Xi is busy trying to broker a peace deal.

Boy dont we look like fools to the world. And trust me, outside the propaganda world of the US msm, the world knows a peace deal was at hand months ago and the west killed it for their own nefarious reasons.

The US surely looks foolish, and moreso the more weapons they send.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 9:26 pm to
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Putin is not HItler, nor Mugabi or some other lunatic.



Yeah, he is.

How much Drakkar do you wear when you go to club?
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
27492 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 9:28 pm to
Xi the peacekeeper - Biden the PedoPeter
Posted by RollingwiththeTide
Member since Oct 2020
3681 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 9:59 pm to
Putin is not a stupid man. On the contrary he is probably very intelligent. He certainly more intelligent than our President and military leaders that for sure.

That being said Putin is a Dictator just like Hitler or Stalin or any of the rest of your Dictators across history. They all may have different personalities but they pretty much all suffer from a lot of the same mental illness symptoms.

Let’s dispel of this myth of Russia invaded Ukraine because NATO kept adding more and more members so Putin felt threatened and wanted to invade Ukraine so they could not join NATO. That’s a completely false narrative. Like I said Putin is not stupid. He knows that I’d NATO wanted to fight a war with Russia then all they had to do was invade after the Soviet Union collapsed. There would have been nothing Russia could have done about it and to be honest if NATO wanted to invade Russia at any time since the Soviet Union Collapsed there would be nothing Russia could do about it. Russia doesn’t have the military power to defeat NATO and we have seen that on display this past year with the way the Russian military has preformed in Ukraine.

Look Putin didn’t invade Ukraine because of NATO no more than Hitler started WW2 over Lebensraum. Maybe to some degree they believe their own bullshite but deep down all dictators want power and control. They may say I’m starting this war for this and that but in the end they just want to dominate as much land, territory, and people as possible. It’s just that simple. Putin May talk about NATO but in the end all he cares about is gaining as much territory as possible.
Posted by beebefootballfan
Member since Mar 2011
19051 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 10:09 pm to
China knows where all the Dems dirty secrets are and they are on a mission for blackmail material.
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