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re: China says it will take Taiwan in 48 hour lightning strike after watching Putin’s failures

Posted on 8/7/22 at 4:38 pm to
Posted by Bulldogblitz
In my house
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Posted on 8/7/22 at 4:38 pm to
Should have done it when pelosi was there
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 8/7/22 at 4:40 pm to
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It wouldn't surprise me if they could take Taiwan in 48 hours at least the heaviest part of the invasion.


Then you’re very stupid.

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Why does everyone assume this will be a Normandy style beach / land invasion?


Because it’s what’s going to have to happen. This is not debatable. It will be an amphibious invasion.

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China probably has millions of sleeper agents at the ports, airports and in sorts of places.


Millions, really? How many Cuban communists can you find in America? Why do you think Hispanics are just flipping on a dime to become Republicans now that they see the Democrats as being communists? Sure there are some, but millions on an island of 28 million people that largely escaped from communism and still have communications with their family back on the mainland? frick no.

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Some key strategic air strikes to take out and keep Taiwan planes grounded. Chinese troops follow on cargo ships under heavy air protection and air transports.


You’re a moron if you think it’s going to go this way. No the bare estimates are it would take in very least four times the invasion force of Normandy.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 8/7/22 at 4:48 pm to
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Your assault is going to have to be amphibious. Where are the boats, Xi? We’re not seeing them. Plus the beaches are notoriously horrible in Taiwan. Good fricking luck with your men taking the entire island in two days.
If they could take Taiwan in 2-yrs, they would. They can't. The 100 mile sea crossing would be suicidal.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 8/7/22 at 4:51 pm to
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If they could take Taiwan in 2-yrs, they would. They can't. The 100 mile sea crossing would be suicidal.


Which is why they’re at bare minimum are going to have to have four times the force of D-Day. If it happens, it’s going to make what is going on in Ukraine look like child’s play. There’s more likely to be 48,000 Chinese corpses washing up on Taiwan’s shores than they are to take Taiwan in 48 hours.
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
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Posted on 8/7/22 at 5:03 pm to


They would take Taiwan in 48 hrs without much problem do to overwhelming size difference. And the island is heavily dependent on resources shipped in.


The first hour of an invasion would be the most important for Taiwan to attack, massively hitting China's assets. All missiles would be used to fire on the mainland the very first day.
Posted by Crawdaddy
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Posted on 8/7/22 at 5:17 pm to
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
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Posted on 8/7/22 at 5:20 pm to
The ROC’s military may not be huge but aren’t they well-trained and equipped? I’d imagine they would fight pretty fricking hard considering the alternative. I can’t imagine the CCP will be forgiving for 70+ years of insolence.
This post was edited on 8/7/22 at 5:25 pm
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 8/7/22 at 5:22 pm to
I got the over.

before the Chinese came it was Formosa. the language is a branch of the same language family as Hawaii Philippines New Zealand Madagascar.
there are two dialects.
because mountains.

mountains is how Mao held up vs originally bigger forces.

I agree with the op.
hot air. hopefully the internet scoffs so loud his betters reprimand him.
Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
6035 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 5:37 pm to
Chinese government full of unwarranted arrogance and bluster?! I am shocked
Posted by HeadSlash
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 8/7/22 at 5:41 pm to
A shittload of human wave assaults.
Posted by SugarAggie
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 8/7/22 at 5:51 pm to
Highly doubt the Chinese have the logistical capability to do a cross channel invasion and sustain the needed supply lines to support any beach head they establish.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 8/7/22 at 5:57 pm to
I remember a guy from the Naval War College who once said that if the ChiComs tried to cross the Taiwan Straits en masse they would ultimate prevail but the slaughter would be profound for the ChiComs. First they would take a beating from Taiwan held islands in the Straits like Matsu and Quemoy and the shore batteries are impressive as are the armaments up in the mountains.

So maybe the Chinese try a flanking move and try to attack from the East ( Pacific) side....same thing if not worse. Take a look at the geography. The ChiComs ultimately win, but the damage to the forces as well as damage to coastal China could cause Civil unrest. He said imagine being able to walk to China from Taiwan on the bodies. Hyperbole, of course, but you would get an idea of the cost.
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
18604 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 6:02 pm to
Probably. China has 1.6 billion people. Don't they also have the largest military in the world? They could overwhelm Taiwan with numbers alone.

Ain't like Russia. According to what media implied ... Ukrainian elderly were slaughtering the entire Russian military every day. Just the ghost of Kiev was shooting down like a thousand Russian jets a day.
Posted by rooster108bm
Member since Nov 2010
3234 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 6:13 pm to
Communist China cannot successfully invade Taiwan. Not at this point. Any such attempt would be a massive fiasco, a catastrophefor the CCP and potentially the end of the regime.

China lacks the military transport, let alone the coordination to be able cross the channel successfully in the needed force.

Posted by klrstix
Shreveport, LA
Member since Oct 2006
3571 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 6:22 pm to
As I understand it.. and I could be wrong.. the Chinese leadership is going through a process that could decide who the "next" leader of the nation would be.. so I think what Pelosi did was a ruse by our government to weaken the current leader...

Having said that, the fact we have not heard anything about what Pelosi was there for.. as in meeting with government officials and what the purpose of those meetings were.. is troubling but also in my mind reinforces my thinking..

Of course no one knows what other players and/or factions are in play for that leadership role but in the end I see it as the US attempting bring some influence into that decision..
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 6:29 pm to
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Probably. China has 1.6 billion people. Don't they also have the largest military in the world? They could overwhelm Taiwan with numbers alone.


But what you aren’t thinking about is how are they going to get them over there? Yeah, in a land war, they can overwhelm almost anyone just doing the Zapp Brannigan Killbot strategy. But how are they going to get them across the straight? Ever wonder why no one has attempted to conquer Switzerland? It’s for similar reasons, just add a 100 mile moat to it.

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Ain't like Russia.


Correct. It’s not like Russia and Ukraine. It’s far more intimidating and difficult than that. You do not seem to be strong thinker for not thinking about, you know, boats.
This post was edited on 8/7/22 at 6:51 pm
Posted by rooster108bm
Member since Nov 2010
3234 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 6:47 pm to
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you know, boats.


It's not just the boats.

We had the boats for Normandy and had to wait on weather. The straights are just as treacherous with the added effect of trying to capture an island like Peliliu.

It's a fricking complicated task.

China has always huffed and puffed.

They are better off by boycotting and maybe blockading but I don't think we should honor a blockade.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 6:52 pm to
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It's not just the boats.

We had the boats for Normandy and had to wait on weather. The straights are just as treacherous with the added effect of trying to capture an island like Peliliu.

It's a fricking complicated task.


Yeah, my point was to him is he just thought about the numbers and nothing else like say something as simple as the number of boats it would take to put that vast army onto Taiwan. He’s simply an idiot, since it should take a literal half second’s thought to think about boats when it comes to this situation.
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
9015 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 7:30 pm to
Plus Japan ain't slapped a bitch in a week.

They would absolutely revel in the opportunity to blast China into submission. Bushido still exists.

The problem is that if China didn't take Taiwan quickly, it would make the administration appear weak and weaker by the day that Taiwan withstood their advances.

Xi has now all but assured the world he won't invade Taiwan, because there's no fricking way he can take it in 48 hours, and he can't afford to appear weak. Ever. This is just political posturing akin to "shooting down Pelosi's plane". In the event of an invasion, any war that lasted longer than a month, and Xi would be sleeping with one eye open.

China ain't gonna do shite but shite and fall back in it.
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
39921 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 8:07 pm to
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How do you say "Blitzkrieg" in Han Chinese?


" Bitczkei "... Angmo yu frunny ha ha
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