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re: China now claiming they have ability to demolish US aircraft carriers

Posted on 6/1/23 at 10:31 am to
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
35233 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 10:31 am to
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Based on what?


Propaganda?
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
35233 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 10:32 am to
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The Japanese destroyed several vessels in a first strike. Didn't end well for them.


I figured like your “Dear leader (China Joe),” that you would be pulling for the Chinese.
This post was edited on 6/1/23 at 10:33 am
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 10:32 am to
when Argentina used an exocet missile to defeat an English warship, the pretence of invincible seapower ended.
This post was edited on 6/1/23 at 10:34 am
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
22211 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 10:33 am to
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Based on what?


Life experience. We have one military official stating they don't have a defense for them, another claiming they shot down all six. Given what we know about militaries in general and specifically Ukraine, who's most likely telling the truth?
Posted by JackieTreehorn
Malibu
Member since Sep 2013
29297 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 10:34 am to
We are extremely overconfident about the ability of the US military. Yes we spend more than anyone in the galaxy. How’s that worked out for us since ww2? What are we 1-6?
Posted by beachdude
FL
Member since Nov 2008
5701 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 10:35 am to
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The Japanese destroyed several vessels in a first strike…


And, the type of vessels they destroyed were of zero importance for the future tactics and strategy for winning the war they started.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
35233 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 10:35 am to
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when Argentina used an ecocet missile to defeat an English warship, the pretence of invincible seapower ended.


A French missile. My friend was on a British warship and witnessed the attack first hand.

Nonetheless, the Chinese having this capability has to make you and your ilk happy.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 10:39 am to
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i hope aircraft carriers have something better than patriot type missle systems to protect themselves. but i doubt it.





You guys dont even try.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
35233 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 10:42 am to
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You guys dont even try.


The defense systems were probably “sold” to Zalenskyy.

They are now probably being used to protect the compounds of the cartels.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36571 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 10:43 am to
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Propaganda?



I need something more tangible than that. Like actual evidence.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36571 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 10:44 am to
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They are now probably being used to protect the compounds of the cartels.



You understand that the video going around was already debunked, right?
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
14284 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 10:44 am to
Once China attacks Taiwan or U.S. Naval assets, they cease to exist as an industrialized nation. Malacca closed. Timor Sea closed. No energy, no food, no more Chinese people.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 10:45 am to
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protect the compounds of the cartels.




Man we cant get anything by the PT mafia. You guys are smart AF. Jim the "AF" is what the youngsters type out instead "as frick".

How bout that FDR documentary on the History Channel?
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
27477 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 10:49 am to
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Malacca closed. Timor Sea closed.

Whose going to do that?
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19753 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 10:52 am to
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They also cost about $4-$6 million EACH and Lockheed can only make about 60 of them per year. They're meant to be used against missiles that cost about $50-100k each and can be mass-produced by the thousands. Good luck with all that
it's not the cost of the incoming missile you have to calculate, it's the cost of what it was going to blow up. Also hypersonic missiles cost a lot more than that per missile, like $50 million per
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36571 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 10:54 am to
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Life experience. We have one military official stating they don't have a defense for them, another claiming they shot down all six. Given what we know about militaries in general and specifically Ukraine, who's most likely telling the truth?



Well, given Russian claims about the capabilities of their tech versus their actual performance, I'm much less inclined to believe things like Shoigu's claims in that same link that they destroyed a Patriot or take claims about the capabilities of their missile technology at face value.

Secondly, General Ryder (the Pentagon's Press Secretary) did later confirm that the Ukrainians did use a Patriot to down a Kinzhal, which is in this link. LINK

quote:

Q: I just wanted to double check -- you -- you did confirm -- you did confirm that a Patriot downed this Kinzhal missile ...

GEN. RYDER: Correct.

Q: ... did I hear that right?

GEN. RYDER: Correct.


Later, several images and OSINT work done by several people seemed to confirm that.

The most likely truth is that some Kinzhal's were shot down, but probably not as many as the Ukrainians claimed in the Reuters link.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
9592 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 10:54 am to
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And, the type of vessels they destroyed were of zero importance for the future tactics and strategy for winning the war they started.


Yep, we knew the Japs were coming and the important stuff was out to sea.

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Roosevelt was a POS!!

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This post was edited on 6/1/23 at 7:51 pm
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
14284 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 11:00 am to
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Whose going to do that?

The U.S., Australia, Japan, India, U.K., Indonesia, Philippines, Malaysia, Singapore, and Vietnam are all capable. I guess just whoever gets there first.
Posted by 94LSU
Member since May 2023
316 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 11:00 am to
Taiwan is part of China and the US does not support Taiwan independence. That is official US policy.

LINK /

It's really none of our business.
Posted by sta4ever
The Pit
Member since Aug 2014
15601 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 11:02 am to
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If China wants to invade Taiwan, then they will do it. The bought and paid for, feckless shite stain that you voted for will probably support them doing so. You are such a tool.


Why would Trump support them doing that?
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