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re: China now claiming they have ability to demolish US aircraft carriers

Posted on 6/1/23 at 3:40 pm to
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
17777 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 3:40 pm to
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EMPs


They have the tech to do it, but the worldwide effect of de-industrializing the US would be catastrophic.
Posted by DatNolaClap
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2015
1844 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 3:59 pm to
It’s hard to do better than a 100% hit rate on incoming missiles. Even those of the “hypersonic” variety.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
27477 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 4:06 pm to
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We're just liars now

Almost every nation on the planet has the exact same official policy on Taiwan as we do.

Everyone adheres to One China on paper to keep the peace.
Posted by DatNolaClap
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2015
1844 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 4:08 pm to
Bud, they’ve been shooting down “hypersonic missiles” in Ukraine with Patriots almost every night for the last week with a 100% success rate. The Russians and a Chinese run a joint program on hypersonic missile technology which does not bode well for the Chinese missiles. The patriot batteries have been the target and the Russians have yet to destroy even a single launch vehicle(Patriots employ 8-12). They did minimal damage to one with falling debris from a missile intercept and it’s slated to be repaired in Ukraine if it hasn’t been repaired already.
Posted by DatNolaClap
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2015
1844 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 4:09 pm to
Carriers do not travel alone. They are escorted by other warships that carry surface to air missiles capable of defending the strike group.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
26179 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 4:15 pm to
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We're just liars now. Got it.


No, we have maintained purposeful ambiguity since the Joint Communiqué with the PRC in 1972. The Chinese maintain there is no ambiguity but that relies on the Chinese translation of English which is very much ambiguous and specifically without precision.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36571 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 4:17 pm to
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Back at ya my friend.



What? This response doesn't make any sense.

quote:

Garbage in = garbage out.



Nah
Posted by DatNolaClap
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2015
1844 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 4:19 pm to
Your 100 drones would fall into the sea without a single air defense missile being fired. Russia successfully jammed Ukrainian drones two days ago preventing most of them from reaching their targets in Moscow. I would think a carrier strike group would have even more robust drone defenses.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
11117 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 4:23 pm to
Everyone said Trump would bring us to the brink of WW3 and here we are.. kinda
Posted by DatNolaClap
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2015
1844 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 4:32 pm to
It does go into depth but it wreaks of Russian propaganda. But the question remains, If the Russians did indeed destroy a complete Patriot Battery then what has been shooting down their hypersonic missiles in their subsequent attacks? If they really did destroy an entire battery as they claimed then they wouldn’t have waited two days to try again. They would have hit their military targets in Kiev within hours. They did not employ the strategy of carrying out 2 missiles volleys in an 8 hour period (which both failed miserably. They managed to kill a couple children with debris) until 2 days ago when they claimed that they destroyed a patriot system over a week ago. It just doesn’t add up. The Patriot battery that Russia claims is destroyed is obviously still in play. The other battery in Ukrainian use was located near Kharkiv oblast as recently as two weeks ago when it shot down 4 enemy aircraft in a matter of minutes.
Posted by texas tortilla
houston
Member since Dec 2015
1971 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 6:29 pm to
LINK here is his analysis from 5/29. Are you sure you aren't falling for western propaganda? USA will never admit a patriot system got taken out.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
20060 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 6:57 pm to
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We built more than two dozen fleet carriers, more than one hundred light/escort carriers, and thousands of escort/support vessels from 1940-1945.


These days we'd have to order parts from China or elsewhere. That's the cost of exporting domestic production in exchange for cheap labor.

Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
20060 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 7:06 pm to
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The link I posted - twice - is the US Department of State's own web site. No, I'm not joking. It is in fact official US policy and has been for 40+ years.


Yet the people of Taiwan never wanted to be part of China. The only claim China has on Taiwan is that the idiots at the UN gave Taiwan to China after their Japanese rulers surrendered. The UN didn't ask the people of Taiwan what they wanted.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
9592 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 8:11 pm to
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Carriers do not travel alone. They are escorted by other warships that carry surface to air missiles capable of defending the strike group.


With Navy birds in the air. Of course, the USAF is only a phone call away!!

Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
34317 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 9:01 pm to
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China couldn’t do a damn thing. They’d all be dead before they even struck an aircraft carrier. If they really were that strong, they would have invaded Taiwan by now, but they haven’t, because they know who runs the air, land, sea, and space in this world.



Half this board thinks their casino aircraft carrier would wreck us
Posted by DatNolaClap
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2015
1844 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 11:42 am to
Well it appears that you’re at least somewhat correct because they are sending them two new launch vehicles. Must be to replace 2 that got destroyed or damaged. They didn’t destroy a whole battery though.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29843 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 12:37 pm to
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It’s also clouding many of your guys perception on the US military, because of politics.
Political? Like accusing all white military members of being part of the white supremacy movement like the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs did?

Why do you think the military can’t meet their recruiting goals anymore?
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Military is separate from government, and it would take many years to ruin our military’s strength. It doesn’t happen in just 2 years.
2 years? The military purge started under Obama’s two terms over a decade ago. Ask any former or current military members.

Good luck with your new woke army.
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