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re: China Embassy: China & the U.S. are NOT having any consultation or negotiation on tariffs
Posted on 4/25/25 at 8:41 am to VOR
Posted on 4/25/25 at 8:41 am to VOR
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The U.S. does not have a strong hand in this game.
OMG!
That is the most idiotic statement you can make!
The customer has the power.
China is in such desperate condition already that they are lying to their people about 500,000 Americans protesting the tariffs and rioting to loot Chinese goods from American stores! They also are telling their people that plane loads of Americans are flying to China to buy their superior goods tariff free!
Now here you are being either an anti Trumper, and/or a Chinese shill.
If you’re shilling for China, I hope you’re a smart shill and getting paid.
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Posted on 4/25/25 at 8:43 am to VOR
Thanks for the daily reminder that you’re a complete moron.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 8:43 am to John Barron
Send that guy home, and tell him to come back when he learns how to negotiate.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 8:44 am to LSUnation78
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Thanks for the daily reminder that you’re a complete moron.
I remembered from yesterday
Posted on 4/25/25 at 9:03 am to Gaspergou202
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The customer has the power.
This is not always the case and certainly not the case here. This is not a one to one negotiation at a furniture store. Since the customer has the power, explain to us what the US based manufacturers (Chinese customers) are doing to replace the Chinese components used in their products when no one else makes them? I can assure you the US based manufacturer is getting nailed and passing their hefty cost increases to you....Mr. Customer. How does the power feel? We better hope this trade war isn't long-term with China. We have not even started to feel the higher cost of products. Those are on boats headed this way....watch for big price jumps within 30 days.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 9:10 am to MardiGrasCajun
Are you scared or something??
BTW... China just rolled back tariffs.
BTW... China just rolled back tariffs.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 9:17 am to John Barron
No, they are lying, hoping everything falls apart for Trump by them not admitting they are talking, they have to talk, they just paid 5.2 million to dock a ship plus 144 percent on imports.
Trump is not playing with them after their BS where they negotiated foe 2 years then walked away from the deal in 2019, all they were doin g is stalling, then they helped the Dems steal the election in 2020, so, Trump will not insult publicly but we all know what he does t people who try to shaft him, he NEVER FORGETS.
This will not take long, he baited them into upping the percentage
and they fell for it, if its a million percent who wins? WE DO..........They do not buy much of anything from us anyway.
Trump is not playing with them after their BS where they negotiated foe 2 years then walked away from the deal in 2019, all they were doin g is stalling, then they helped the Dems steal the election in 2020, so, Trump will not insult publicly but we all know what he does t people who try to shaft him, he NEVER FORGETS.
This will not take long, he baited them into upping the percentage
and they fell for it, if its a million percent who wins? WE DO..........They do not buy much of anything from us anyway. Posted on 4/25/25 at 9:18 am to BCreed1
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Are you scared or something??
Scared? Are you a 5 year old kid? I’m an adult that likes to keep the majority of my income not pass it on to product price increases.
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BTW... China just rolled back tariffs.
BTW…see my previous post regarding a deal within days. I’m way ahead of you. More to come.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 9:24 am to MardiGrasCajun
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Scared?
You sound like it.
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Are you a 5 year old kid?
No. A grown man with kids that wants a future for them. Therefore, I will absorb it short term for the security of their futures and their kids futures.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 9:39 am to BCreed1
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Therefore, I will absorb it short term
Exactly as I said…you do not want this to go LONG term. You obviously didn’t read my previous post as I told you. This must stay short term.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 9:44 am to MardiGrasCajun
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Exactly as I said…you do not want this to go LONG term.
Tariffs have been proven to only have a short term effect on prices and then as more competition is added the prices drop.
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This must stay short term.
No it doesn't have too.
- Short term = some prices increased offset by tax cuts.
- Long term = equals more jobs and more competition within the ecosystem and thus prices drop.
There is 100% noway the USA, as the largest consumer in the world, lose this.
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Posted on 4/25/25 at 9:55 am to BCreed1
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Short term = some prices increased offset by tax cuts.
Any tax cuts won’t fully cover the current tariff percentages on products from China. Products prices will jump 25% minimum….probably more.
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Long term = equals more jobs and more competition within the ecosystem and thus prices drop.
Those jobs and competition won’t be located in the US for products made in China. Other countries will undercut US manufacturing costs just as China has.
We don’t win. We get price increases from China or another country that can’t manufacture as the same low costs. Anyone thinking our costs as consumers will come down at some point is foolish. Never happens…still waiting on those post-COVID prices to drop.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 10:14 am to MardiGrasCajun
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I can assure you the US based manufacturer is getting nailed and passing their hefty cost increases to you....Mr. Customer. How does the power feel?
You might want to ask Anheuser-Busch how losing their consumer base worked out for them.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 10:37 am to MardiGrasCajun
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Short term = some prices increased offset by tax cuts.
Any tax cuts won’t fully cover the current tariff percentages on products from China. Products prices will jump 25% minimum….probably more.
That's a guess/opinion.
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Those jobs and competition won’t be located in the US for products made in China. Other countries will undercut US manufacturing costs just as China has.
Do you need the current list of companies coming here?
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We don’t win.
We do and are.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 10:43 am to VOR
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The U.S. does not have a strong hand in this game. Uncertainty, shaky markets, inflation and a genuine threat of recession. Trump’s first hundred Days, so far, have been a shite show.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 11:26 am to John Barron
We need to wreck their economy. We need to embargo their goods and cut off any exports to them. Starve the bastards out.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 12:17 pm to MardiGrasCajun
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This is not always the case and certainly not the case here.
Keep cashing that CCP check my man!
Classic customer options: buy a substitute product, buy from a different company, buy less, do without, or pay 125% more for that component of the product.
Very few products are only available from China and companies including Chinese are relocating as we speak.
List the Chinese only products that we cannot live without. And then indicate what percentage of exports to America this accounts of total Chinese exports.
I’ll wait.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 12:20 pm to John Barron
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Bring it you fortune cookie eating muthafookers!
Fortune cookies originated in Japan and are mostly an American thing, dumb arse.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 12:21 pm to John Barron
Such BS. Maybe not formal negotiations but there is always back channel talks. Always.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 12:22 pm to VOR
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The U.S. does not have a strong hand in this game. Uncertainty, shaky markets, inflation and a genuine threat of recession. Trump’s first hundred
Days, so far, have been a shite show.
bullshite I bet you believe COVID came from bats
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