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re: China announces 34% retaliatory tariff on all US imports. Dow down 1000 on the news.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:25 am to imjustafatkid
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:25 am to imjustafatkid
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You clearly are not even willing to admit to basic facts like this obvious one: "China uses slave labor."
Look at the facts I posted just above.
Why is that slave labor?
It would be slave labor if those people had to deal with the cost of living here, but they don't. Their cost of living is 74% less than ours.
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Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:25 am to Bunk Moreland
No one believes unskilled labor with no degrees are entitled to making enough for a 5 bedroom house and 2 cars.
Auto workers make about $28 an hour on average, or just shy of $60k a year. Thats almost $20k higher than the median income, and these factories are going to be in low to medium cost of living places. People can raise a family on that
Auto workers make about $28 an hour on average, or just shy of $60k a year. Thats almost $20k higher than the median income, and these factories are going to be in low to medium cost of living places. People can raise a family on that
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:26 am to fareplay
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People here will not believe any other data than those from Twitter republicans and Trump. The Bible can say tariffs are bad and they will still justify it
They absolutely ridiculed Obama's tariffs when Trumps tariffs cost almost a million dollar a job created in his last term.
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Trump’s Washing Machine Tariffs Created 1,800 US Jobs, but at a YUGE Cost to Consumers of $820,000/job
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:26 am to dgnx6
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says the 45 year old waiter
While Bunk is not that, those jobs are more productive (and get paid a market wage accordingly) than the crappy, low paid work that doesn't work in our economy
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:27 am to GeauxBurrow312
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No one believes unskilled labor with no degrees are entitled to making enough for a 5 bedroom house and 2 cars.
The frick they don't.
The uat fan who spams the board with all of his "alternative economics" theories posted a huge thread with that being the exact premise a week or so ago.
And there were plenty chiming in who believed it.
This post was edited on 4/4/25 at 9:29 am
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:27 am to wackatimesthree
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The average factory worker here (again, depending on who you ask) makes between $17-$24/hour.
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In Louisiana, the average hourly pay for a restaurant server is around $11.58
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:28 am to wackatimesthree
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Look at the facts I posted just above.
Why is that slave labor?
It would be slave labor if those people had to deal with the cost of living here, but they don't. Their cost of living is 74% less than ours.
I feel like I'm back in 2012 on here arguing with Rex about "Sweat shops" and "exploiting the poor" and "colonialism".
I used to own the Leftists on here making these stupid-emotional arguments and I guess I'll have to do it again with MAGA people arguing that leftism today.
These jobs suck compared to our glorious economy/lifestyle.
These jobs are good compared to the alternative options they have.
Also, this is a necessary step in the economic development of a country.
If you want to see how this works in the right way, Taiwan is typically the go to example. They started off with "slave labor" in the 50s and used that to build an incredibly modern economy in half a century.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:28 am to SlowFlowPro
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While Bunk is not that, those jobs are more productive (and get paid a market wage accordingly) than the crappy, low paid work that doesn't work in our economy
holy shite
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:29 am to dgnx6
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$11.58
A higher salary than these shitty jobs people want back deserve. That's the entire point.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:29 am to wackatimesthree
This board is walking a fine where they want those jobs back, but at not TOO greedy of a union wage. It's basically "we want the $17 work back in Tennessee, but not at $27 in Michigan."
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:29 am to dgnx6
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The average factory worker here (again, depending on who you ask) makes between $17-$24/hour.
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In Louisiana, the average hourly pay for a restaurant server is around $11.58
So what's your point?
That Louisiana restaurants pay slave wages?
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:29 am to dgnx6
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holy shite
These jobs aren't even worth min wage. That's why they're in developing countries.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:33 am to Bunk Moreland
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This board is walking a fine where they want those jobs back, but at not TOO greedy of a union wage. It's basically "we want the $17 work back in Tennessee, but not at $27 in Michigan."
I'm telling you, they will get to the union pablum, and it's coming fast.
There's a thread on the board right now with some ex-auto worker from Detroit who is crowing about the tariffs and manufacturing coming back.
That Detroit environment only existed due to unions. UAW.
Once the populists figure out that the trope is impossible without it, they'll embrace it. I'd bet my bank account on it.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:34 am to GeauxBurrow312
Median income is like 58k lol you think median is 40?
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:38 am to fareplay
Median income: 39,982 USD (2023)
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:41 am to GeauxBurrow312
I stand corrected, I guess I was looking at average. However I’d like to point out this counts gig workers and part timers which shouldn’t be relevant to manufacturing baw comparisons
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:43 am to slackster
Soooo... They just charged themselves. Am I right, Democrats?
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:43 am to fareplay
I think gig and part timers is exactly who should be compared to. Who do you think is going to fill these factory jobs?
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:43 am to SlowFlowPro
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Wait what?
Leftists argue for domestic protectionism.
Is that why Carter sold the Panama Canal?
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:44 am to fareplay
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Median income is like 58k lol you think median is 40?
I think median household is about $60k, that's probably what you saw.
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