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re: China and the EU have begun negotiations to eliminate EU tariffs on Chinese EVs
Posted on 4/10/25 at 2:44 pm to VOR
Posted on 4/10/25 at 2:44 pm to VOR
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A thoughtful, mature contribution too the discussion, Geaux… let’s destroy half of western civilization… that’ll show the world we mean business…
Remember when this place was anti-war?
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Posted on 4/10/25 at 2:46 pm to ThuperThumpin
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They are also a lot less expensive.
Posted on 4/10/25 at 2:49 pm to 19
Posted on 4/10/25 at 2:52 pm to mwade91383
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Do you see this as a good thing? To not have any trade allies?
I see this as recognizing reality, and yes, it is absolutely a good thing. Forcing our good buddy pals to not break it off in our arse when we do business together is a great thing. Access to our consumer market is a privilege, not a right, and among "allies" and "trade partners" should include our access to their markets.
Any entity or country losing their shite over the US matching the taxes and fees they put on US goods coming into their countries, is no ally.
Posted on 4/10/25 at 3:03 pm to troyt37
The kid lost his friends at school when he repeatedly acted like an a-hole. But his parents told him that it was a good thing, and better for him to know who wasn’t his friend anymore. Better to be alone. Who needs friends anyway.
Posted on 4/10/25 at 3:06 pm to AGGIES
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The kid lost his friends at school when he repeatedly acted like an a-hole. But his parents told him that it was a good thing, and better for him to know who wasn’t his friend anymore. Better to be alone. Who needs friends anyway.
You're equating kids on a playground and international trade worth trillions of dollars.
Posted on 4/10/25 at 3:14 pm to troyt37
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You're equating kids on a playground and international trade worth trillions of dollars.
Crazy world we live in now. when obviously childish behavior applies to US international trade and politics.
Pretending that all trade deficits are inherently “unfair” is childish.
Calling world leaders little derogatory names is childish.
Trump considers international trade deals that HE previously negotiated “unfair”.
There has been a real shift it attitudes. All of these countries see the US as untrustworthy now. It’s childish to act like this.
Posted on 4/10/25 at 3:24 pm to John Barron
He knows who they all are don’t let yourself be fooled
Posted on 4/10/25 at 3:25 pm to AGGIES
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Crazy world we live in now. when obviously childish behavior applies to US international trade and politics.
What would that childish behavior be? Allowing countries access to our markets at comparatively no cost? Or deciding that other countries should allow US companies access to their markets, since we allow them access to ours? Childish? No. Business.
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Pretending that all trade deficits are inherently “unfair” is childish.
That isn't what is happening. Acknowledging that we wouldn't have such large trade deficits if US producers were allowed access to the markets without having it throttled by tariffs and fees are what is happening. Business.
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Calling world leaders little derogatory names is childish.
I'll give you that, but it's not as if the rest of the world or domestic leftists have exactly taken the high road here.
Posted on 4/10/25 at 3:26 pm to ThuperThumpin
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I appreciate the sentiment but Chinese EV are proving to be very reliable and are nipping at Tesla's feet in most of the tech. They are also a lot less expensive.
This is triggering.
Posted on 4/10/25 at 3:32 pm to troyt37
I agree that being wary of China is, and should be a top priority. They have been taking advantage of everything they can, to an extreme level.
Pissing in your allies’ faces hurts your ability to maintain coalitions to counter China. Even if they aren’t perfect, the EU is important in that regard. Not anymore it would seem.
Pissing in your allies’ faces hurts your ability to maintain coalitions to counter China. Even if they aren’t perfect, the EU is important in that regard. Not anymore it would seem.
Posted on 4/10/25 at 3:34 pm to John Barron
Europe is only our friend when they need something. frick all of those smelly foreign trash bags.
Posted on 4/10/25 at 3:38 pm to AGGIES
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Pissing in your allies’ faces hurts your ability to maintain coalitions to counter China. Even if they aren’t perfect, the EU is important in that regard. Not anymore it would seem.
The EU has been a principal violator of protectionist tariffs since its creation. If they wanted to be considered as, and treated like an ally, they wouldn't tax the dogshit out of US goods coming into their country. If what we are doing now is pissing in their faces, what do you consider it is they have been doing to us for the last 50 years?
This post was edited on 4/10/25 at 3:40 pm
Posted on 4/10/25 at 3:40 pm to ThuperThumpin
quote:That's what stealing intellectual property can do I guess
I appreciate the sentiment but Chinese EV are proving to be very reliable and are nipping at Tesla's feet in most of the tech. They are also a lot less expensive.
Posted on 4/10/25 at 3:40 pm to John Barron
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The European Union and China have agreed to look into setting minimum prices of Chinese-made electric vehicles instead of tariffs imposed by the EU last year, a European Commission spokesperson said on Thursday.
Posted on 4/10/25 at 3:43 pm to phaz
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They would go through the Suez Canal, thanks to the US protecting the shipping lanes
I suspect, if the EU and China make that deal, we will stop bombing the Houthi and instead start selling them rockets.
Posted on 4/10/25 at 3:43 pm to TigerFanatic99
The U.S. consumer market is larger than the EU, China, Canada and Mexico combined. These countries have to have access to our markets to survive.
Posted on 4/10/25 at 3:48 pm to John Barron
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China and the EU have begun negotiations to eliminate EU tariffs on Chinese EVs
Well no shite. What was expected here? The world is a huge market. It would be stupid not to pursue any and all avenues.
Posted on 4/10/25 at 3:51 pm to riserlock
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Is Russia an ally?
No. I think we should try to foster that relationship, but not at the kind of expense it has taken to do business with the EU and China.
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