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re: Check out this X post from Trump’s FCC Chairman nominee.

Posted on 11/18/24 at 3:04 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 11/18/24 at 3:04 pm to
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Wr love our small government don’t we?


Go read the RFK thread. They even opined how great Europe is. The most Leftist archetype imaginable.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
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Posted on 11/18/24 at 3:04 pm to
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1. The FCC "trademarks" the use of the word "News" in broadcast and publications. Clearly define a standard that is to be followed if the word News is used in the broadcast or publication title. 1. Should be based on facts. 2 should be based on all facts, pro and con, if the reporting entity knows other facts exist. 3. The use of reporter opinion and narrative eliminates the source from legal protections.
Thisnis silly. The FCC is probably the most corrupt body in government and you want it to become a Ministry of Truth.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
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Posted on 11/18/24 at 3:09 pm to
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I can't go and purchase unpasteurized milk from the Amish, apparently. We're long past allowing consenting adults and private businesses to handle their own affairs.
If I punched you in the face, would you argue I should punch you some more and that punching you in the face is a good thing?
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 11/18/24 at 3:19 pm to
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Wrong. The strawman is impressive.


Here you are trying to claim that the thread was about "illegal immigration" when it was specifically about grooming gangs.

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Then you dodged for a long before admitting you wanted violence.


Violence is an inherent part of the term "self defense", so the implication was explicit from the start.

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You kept incorrectly interjecting grooming gangs into the discussion when they were irrelevant to the discussion.


Tommie Robinson's tweet:

"This is what happens when British peoples concerns are ignored.

When the cries of groomed children are brushed under the carpet. When an influx of undocumented fighting age men flood into communities preying on little girls for sexual gratification.

The British people have had enough.

Failed policies and failed promises lead to anger and resentment."

How can the OP be off topic?

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I'll post it again:

Guns won't win this political debate (in the US or UK).

You have to convince voters to support your policies. That's how democracy works.


You can keep posting your turd warm takes, but people aren't going to classify the sexual well being of their children as a "political debate". There's no debate. Come after my kids and you'll get shot. Again, unfortunately the Brits disarmed themselves.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 11/18/24 at 3:23 pm to
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If I punched you in the face, would you argue I should punch you some more and that punching you in the face is a good thing?


The FCC going after social media isn't me getting punched in the face, though.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476641 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 3:27 pm to
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Here you are trying to claim that the thread was about "illegal immigration"

That is what the thread was about.

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Violence is an inherent part of the term "self defense",

And it will make you lose in the democratic process.

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How can the OP be off topic?

Because I asked a question that is ambivalent to the allegations of "grooming". My question was winning the battles within a democratic system. I posted it twice in the post you're quoting.

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Guns won't win this political debate (in the US or UK).

You have to convince voters to support your policies. That's how democracy works.


I posted it again for you.

You're not going to change immigration policies by engaging in violence. It's going to permit more immigration (and more alleged grooming).
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28110 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 3:28 pm to
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This would be a new step in adding powers to that power structure.


I don't trust your judgement on the matter one bit. If you can point to specific regulations they're going to break, or proposed new regs under the Trump admin that could be used, then we can talk.

Until then you're just pissing your pants so you can do what you always do, play the contrarian.

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This isn't some gotcha. I don't believe in overregulation of food, either.


Feel free to post all your objections to the threads in PT discussing fed over reach with the Amish and their milk.

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Ay, comrade.


Keep trying to moralize why people shouldn't play the same game their opponents do. You deserved to get punched in the face until you punch back.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28110 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 3:30 pm to
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That is what the thread was about.


Nope. OP was about grooming gangs as I've already shown.

Anything past this is pointless. You might as well be arguing about "female penises". There's no common ground when you so wildly disregard reality.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/18/24 at 3:32 pm to
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I don't trust your judgement on the matter one bit.

Retreat

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If you can point to specific regulations they're going to break

I specifically described one they're adding

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or proposed new regs under the Trump admin that could be used, then we can talk.

Read his quote that I typed out

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Feel free to post all your objections to the threads in PT discussing fed over reach with the Amish and their milk.

When was the last time that was posted?

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Keep trying to moralize

I'm not moralizing. I'm describing political philosophies being projected.

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why people shouldn't play the same game their opponents do.

You're ultimately giving your opponents more power to use against you, unless you never lose an election again.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/18/24 at 3:32 pm to
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Anything past this is pointless. You might as well be arguing about "female penises". There's no common ground when you so wildly disregard reality.

White flag.
Posted by Chazreinhold
Utah
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 11/18/24 at 3:38 pm to
It just keeps getting Better!!
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28110 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 3:40 pm to
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I specifically described one they're adding


No, you described something they're going to try and do. You never mentioned a new regulation that's being created. For all I know, what they're proposing to do already falls under one of their current powers.

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When was the last time that was posted?


Oh, my mistake. I thought this was a long held value. If you just decided to believe in this for the purposes of arguing in this thread, I'll retract my accusation.

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You're ultimately giving your opponents more power to use against you


Oh no! You mean to tell me progressives might use the Fed to pressure social media to squash conservative speech?

Hunter Biden Laptop story cover up already happened. My dad couldn't even send the NYP link to my uncle via private message on facebook.

Conservatives are already being punched in the face, so you're going to need to come up with something else than "Wait, but that might allow them to punch you in the face!"
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28110 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 3:42 pm to
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White flag.


Why did you cut off the first part of that post?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476641 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 3:53 pm to
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you described something they're going to try and do.

Yes

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You never mentioned a new regulation that's being created

I described one they're trying to create

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For all I know, what they're proposing to do already falls under one of their current powers.

It does not

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Oh, my mistake. I thought this was a long held value. If you just decided to believe in this for the purposes of arguing in this thread, I'll retract my accusation.

You gave a specific reference to use the lack of opposition as some gotcha, so I asked to observe how the discussion unfolded to see if this lack of opposition exists. Now you're backtracking.

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Oh no! You mean to tell me progressives might use the Fed to pressure social media to squash conservative speech?

They already tried with an misinformation czar.

We can see how this board reacted

And again

And again

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476641 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 3:54 pm to
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Why did you cut off the first part of that post?

It's irrelevant framing I've already discussed multiple times.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63320 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 6:24 pm to
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The FCC going after social media isn't me getting punched in the face, though.
Sorry. I’ll try again like a kindergartener. It’s an analogy. You’ve attempted to justify more government over reach by the existence of government over reach. Which is silly.

You’re asserting that because the government does bad things it should do more bad things.

No where did you attempt an argument of merit (wisely).
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28110 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 8:44 pm to
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It does not


Citation needed.

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They already tried with an misinformation czar.


So you're acknowledging the dangers you're using to convince us that such a move isn't in our best interest are already happening?

"Sure the alligator is eating you, but don't fight back because then the alligator might eat you faster!"

For fricks sake... Hard to argue with that logic...
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28110 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 8:45 pm to
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It's irrelevant framing I've already discussed multiple times.


You have not explained how the OP can be off topic
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476641 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 8:48 pm to
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So you're acknowledging the dangers you're using to convince us that such a move isn't in our best interest are already happening?

A bad idea is a bad idea regardless of who promotes it.

As I said on page 1

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Authoritarianism is bad, regardless of which part of the political compass we find it.


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"Sure the alligator is eating you, but don't fight back because then the alligator might eat you faster!"


You aren't fighting back. You're giving them more power when they re-take power.

The smart thing to do would be to eliminate the power so nobody can wield it.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476641 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 8:49 pm to
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You have not explained how the OP can be off topic

Go back to my post that started the digression. That's the topic.

It doesn't matter how you frame the group to which you want action taken. I'm telling you that your plan of violence will not achieve your desired outcome. Not as long as the society at issue is a democracy.
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