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re: Charges against parents of Michigan school shooter
Posted on 12/3/21 at 3:47 pm to LSUAngelHere1
Posted on 12/3/21 at 3:47 pm to LSUAngelHere1
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You made the typical gun control statement about having to secure firearms to make them inaccessible to unsupervised children and the mentally ill.
We both can agree it’s not smart to leave a loaded handgun on your nightstand with a toddler in the house. Correct? Just like we both agree that leaving a gun accessible to a mentally disturbed person who talks about the “voices in his head” and daydreams about killing people is not a great idea. I’m not talking about gun control at all. I’m talking about being a responsible adult. Something which seems to trigger you pretty bad.
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Posted on 12/3/21 at 3:53 pm to BigDawg0420
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I’m talking about being a responsible adult.
No, you're talking about holding an adult legally responsible for what their teenager did.
I think it's responsible to eat healthy, exercise and not be a fatty. I don't want to use the legal system to punish fatties for being what I consider irresponsible. See the difference?
This post was edited on 12/3/21 at 3:56 pm
Posted on 12/3/21 at 3:59 pm to Indefatigable
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and that the parents were aware of his issues
So the Waukesha killer's mom should be charged since she knew he had medical issues.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 4:04 pm to Music_City_Tiger
Posted on 12/3/21 at 4:24 pm to Flats
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No, you're talking about holding an adult legally responsible for what their teenager did.
It’s not like the kid went out and bought a gun himself and the parents were oblivious. The father brought a gun into the home with a mentally unstable person and did not secure it properly. Now whether he deserves punishment for that mistake is up to the courts to decide. I’m done with this gun control argument. We’re on the same side. I’m up in a tree with a gun hunting as we speak. Cheers.
This post was edited on 12/3/21 at 4:28 pm
Posted on 12/3/21 at 4:54 pm to BigDawg0420
So if they take your gun from your home and kill someone without you knowing your gun was taken you should be charged or if you are sleeping and they take your car and run over some people and kill them you should be charged. What happens when your kids gang rape someone and you were not aware that this was happening they should arrest you and charge you for the crime because your crystal ball didn’t work and you were not aware of your kids crime. Exactly where does this stop.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 5:00 pm to Music_City_Tiger
Just read the timeline. This isn’t just the purchasing of the gun, it’s ignoring the letter of the shooting saying he was going to use it and not telling the school officials. I think the school officials should join the parents.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 5:04 pm to Music_City_Tiger
Every gun incident where a white person is the shooter will be used for gun control and the taking away of liberty.
Not saying this kid and his parents aren’t scum.
Not saying this kid and his parents aren’t scum.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 5:07 pm to BigDawg0420
Great, now I’m thinking about the black All In The Family parody where Edith traded Archie’s nine for some George Clinton tickets.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 5:23 pm to Music_City_Tiger
If the parents are to be charged wouldn’t it stand to reason that the son would have to actually be convicted of murder beforehand?
I mean he obviously is guilty but there are procedures that have to take place before it’s technically a fact.
I mean he obviously is guilty but there are procedures that have to take place before it’s technically a fact.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 5:31 pm to Music_City_Tiger
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The mother allegedly wrote in a text to Crumbley after reports of the shooting: “lol I’m not mad at you, you have to learn not to get caught”
Parents BOUGHT the kid the gun as a Christmas gift, made aware of his drawings of shooting people, flee when charged....yeah, they don't need to be charged w/ anything....they are purely innocent parents of a deranged kid, let them be free!! pfft!!!!
Sometimes I wonder if any of you actually read the news instead of being pure sheep.
But, it's more important "my opinion is more important than the facts. I can't be wrong no matter what" That's the vast majority of people here.
This post was edited on 12/3/21 at 5:34 pm
Posted on 12/3/21 at 5:31 pm to Music_City_Tiger
I dont know if the parents are criminally responsible but I can guarantee they are civilly liable. No different than driving their car. Fact is you own your kids and they're stupidity until they are 18 or emancipate themselves legally. Exception being the 13% that dont give a frick and have nothing to lose anyway.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 5:32 pm to bluedragon
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Mine was over His 25 unexcused absences for Algebra ...
Your reaction adds up then. Not that your son would know.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 5:37 pm to imjustafatkid
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The only way to store your guns is a way in which they are easily accessible.
I have no children, so that works for me. If you have children you might be better off doing things differently. I once saw a Veteran whose young child got ahold of his gun and accidentally shot and killed his/her self. I can’t imagine a bigger feeling of guilt.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 5:39 pm to phutureisyic
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So the Waukesha killer's mom should be charged since she knew he had medical issues.
So start a thread on that. But comparing criminal cases with different facts and in different jurisdictions with different laws and prosecutors is pointless and stupid.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 5:40 pm to Flats
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All I firmly believe about this case at this point is that all the people saying "if he got his parents' gun then they're guilty of murder as well" are tards.
Cool. That’s not what I or the prosecutor said.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 5:44 pm to Flats
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No, you're talking about holding an adult legally responsible for what their teenager did.
I think it's responsible to eat healthy, exercise and not be a fatty. I don't want to use the legal system to punish fatties for being what I consider irresponsible. See the difference?
I understand that you are desperately wishing for the prosecutor to have railroaded the parents so it can fit whatever narrative you want to have regarding this incident, but they would not have charged them that quickly and gave details on the evidence they had if they didn’t have it.
It’s not as simple as “holding the parents responsible for their kids actions”, and you know that. There is very clearly something giving the DA/Sheriff’s office an indication that the parts were incredibly negligent on this, at best. They wouldn’t have charged the parents otherwise.
Believe it or not, all criminal prosecutions are not linked. This case has no bearing, at all, and is not influenced, at all, by the Rittenhouse case, the second amendment, or the Wisconsin parade incident.
This post was edited on 12/3/21 at 5:48 pm
Posted on 12/3/21 at 5:49 pm to Seppuku
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Sometimes I wonder if any of you actually read the news instead of being pure sheep.
I’m not saying the parents are without fault, but trusting what the news says certainly makes you the sheep.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 5:50 pm to BigDawg0420
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With that being said, the right to bear arms comes with great responsibility. That responsibility includes securing firearms in a way that prevents them from falling into the unsupervised hands of children, mentally ill, etc.
Yeah cause when it's needed the threat will wait for you to unlock it and load it. C'mon man.
Not sure where you are from, but seeing a loaded shotgun/rifle leaning against the doorframe of a master bedroom or next to the bed wasn't surprising. Teach your kids it's not a toy, and take them out to the range to see how it works. Pretty simple.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 5:51 pm to Seppuku
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Parents BOUGHT the kid the gun as a Christmas gift, made aware of his drawings of shooting people, flee when charged....yeah, they don't need to be charged w/ anything....they are purely innocent parents of a deranged kid, let them be free!! pfft!!!!
There are no CAP laws at a federal level or for Michigan state laws so the gun access argument is invalid
CAP Laws
What you are left with is them ignoring the drawings and a school counselors suggestion. Does that come across as involuntary manslaughter to you?
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