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re: Ceasefire extended per Trump

Posted on 4/21/26 at 4:25 pm to
Posted by The_Duke
Member since Nov 2016
4346 posts
Posted on 4/21/26 at 4:25 pm to
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What specifically is mental gymnastics and not facts


What “facts” do you have exactly?

Somehow you spend you time trying to blame the people for calling out this craziness instead of the person performing the crazy.

If I came to your door and threatened you to do X by a certain deadline, and if you didn’t, I would shoot you in the face—in said deadline you did not do what I wanted and my only recourse was to then extend the deadline—3-4 times.

Wouldn’t you think I was bluffing and not as tough as I have been claiming to be?

Why make these bold claims only to back down? The majority of men would considered that person fake.

No one is forcing crazy Trump to get on Twitter at 2am and make these bold proclamations that he has no intention of going through with.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9314 posts
Posted on 4/21/26 at 4:31 pm to
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As long as Iran has the capability to attack ships in the Strait, you keep bombing them till they no longer have that capacity.

The war is the Strait. It’s nothing else. And Iran somehow is still controlling it. Why we’ve allowed that I have no idea


Perhaps because as I suspect Iran is still capable of doing major damage to the Persian Gulf states as well as keep the Strait hostage. We may simply at this point be incapable of totally eliminating that threat through bombing alone.
Posted by CastleBravo
Rapid City, SD
Member since Sep 2013
1773 posts
Posted on 4/21/26 at 4:32 pm to
quote:

As long as Iran has the capability to attack ships in the Strait


Who cares if the strait remains closed? Only weak nations that thought "net zero" was something besides a marxist power grab.

What a great punishment for their lack of foresight.

As long as Iran can't sell their oil, they lose.
Posted by biscuitsngravy
Tejas, north America
Member since Jan 2011
3878 posts
Posted on 4/21/26 at 4:33 pm to
Art of the deal, baby!!

Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
97721 posts
Posted on 4/21/26 at 4:33 pm to
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What “facts” do you have exactly?


That the tards cry about war

Now they cry Taco

Which is it I mean you seem like a tard to be honest
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9314 posts
Posted on 4/21/26 at 4:35 pm to
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There is no reason to keep bombing, the blockade is checkmate.


If the history of naval blockades effectiveness to starve a population into submission are any indication of how long this one will take.....it may take quite a while. Time the rest of the world doesnt have on their side.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9314 posts
Posted on 4/21/26 at 4:41 pm to
quote:

Who cares if the strait remains closed? Only weak nations that thought "net zero" was something besides a marxist power grab.

What a great punishment for their lack of foresight.

As long as Iran can't sell their oil, they lose.


Wait,, you are saying who cares b/c the strait being close doesnt effect the US?
Posted by The_Duke
Member since Nov 2016
4346 posts
Posted on 4/21/26 at 4:43 pm to
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Now they cry Taco Which is it I mean you seem like a tard to be honest


No I seem like a rational man that believes in holding another man to their word.

I’ve never known anyone to respect a man that makes bold claims and promises only to then back down time and time again at the last minute.

Posted by CastleBravo
Rapid City, SD
Member since Sep 2013
1773 posts
Posted on 4/21/26 at 4:45 pm to
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Wait,, you are saying who cares b/c the strait being close doesnt effect the US?


It does, but not as much as other countries who actually depend on that oil.

I don't really care that much about the economy, i just don't want Iran to have nuclear weapons and building up infinity missiles and drones.

Israel eliminating Hamas and Hezbollah is also a great outcome.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
97721 posts
Posted on 4/21/26 at 4:46 pm to
No one cares about you and what you think to be honest

Im glad you confirmed i stated facts and the rest of your post was just a TDS rant
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74090 posts
Posted on 4/21/26 at 4:47 pm to
The calculus is that further economic degradation will foment internal strife.

The libertarians on this board have yet to give a single solution for how we solve the problem of Iran refusing the number 1 American demand: no enrichment.

Some of you are getting dangerously close to arguing that we should give iran some of what it wants in order to reopen the strait.

That’s bullshite. It rewards economic terrorism.


It’s time to rip off the bandaid and end the regime.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
68091 posts
Posted on 4/21/26 at 4:53 pm to
Would you take 3.67%? That sounds pretty good right now.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
46920 posts
Posted on 4/21/26 at 4:56 pm to
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I don't even think it will necessarily come to this. The IRGC isn't being paid. Or, if they are, I don't know how and how much longer they can possibly be paid. Iran can't even determine who is leading their country.

What I feel like is most likely to happen is that the people and the regular army turn on the IRGC and they quickly lay down their arms.


You've got to stop taking propaganda at face value.

- The IRGC isn't paid and isn't being led.

- The IRGC is steadfast in the face of the American Military.

Which one of these, based on the actions of Iran, are more likely to be valid.

Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74090 posts
Posted on 4/21/26 at 4:56 pm to
The American position is: Iran must abandon its nuclear program.

Iran keeps on refusing.

Why do you think we need to engage in a back and forth transaction?
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
46920 posts
Posted on 4/21/26 at 4:57 pm to
quote:

What the frick


His vote counts just as much as ours.
Posted by The_Duke
Member since Nov 2016
4346 posts
Posted on 4/21/26 at 4:58 pm to
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Im glad you confirmed i stated facts and the rest of your post was just a TDS rant


We are all waiting on one of those facts you are claiming.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28042 posts
Posted on 4/21/26 at 4:59 pm to
quote:

It’s time to rip off the bandaid and end the regime.


That probably means boots on the ground, and whether they're needed or not I don't think Trump has the stomach for it. Option B is to flail around until we can't take the pain, and that looks like the path we're on. We pull out, crazy Muslims are still in charge but we've depleted their military.

There's a very, very small chance this could work out well without a ground invasion. We could get lucky and all this chaos results in moderate leadership that's friendly to the US and the rest of the region. I suspect that's what everybody wants but it's not looking good.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63504 posts
Posted on 4/21/26 at 5:00 pm to
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There aren’t enough non radical non Muslim people to overthrow the radical Muslim Arabs


While there certainly are Arabs who live in Iran, the majority of the population is Persian, including the majority of the members of the radical Muslim regime.
This post was edited on 4/21/26 at 5:02 pm
Posted by SelaTiger
Member since Aug 2016
21805 posts
Posted on 4/21/26 at 5:01 pm to
Taco taco man…….. Trump wants to be a taco man!
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
46920 posts
Posted on 4/21/26 at 5:01 pm to
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The libertarians on this board have yet to give a single solution for how we solve the problem of Iran refusing the number 1 American demand: no enrichment.


This is not true. I said after Trump ended the 12-Day War the only logical path forward was a ground invasion to facilitate strategic regime change in Iran. The calculus has never changed and won't change outside of some seemingly impossible scenario like the Likud Party losing power in Israel.
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