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re: CDC says 4,647 deaths reported after COVID-19 Vaccine

Posted on 5/20/21 at 9:25 pm to
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34228 posts
Posted on 5/20/21 at 9:25 pm to
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But you also think the earth is 6000 years old, so.

If this is your comeback then perhaps you arent capable of understanding. No where in the Bible does it claim this. a) Adam and Eve were originally created as immortal. b) The 24 hr day didnt exist until the 4th day of creation. Therefore, there is no origination point for some random priest to count from since creation

However back on track, you seemed to just gloss over this part
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There has been a surge in reports to VAERS during the COVID-19 vaccination period.

Clearly something is off with these vaccines
Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
33616 posts
Posted on 5/20/21 at 9:26 pm to
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Clearly something is off with these vaccines
nah bruh. Its all cool. You should totally get the vaccine, even if you already survived Covid. Then, make sure to tell everyone like you're a CrossFit guru.
Posted by AmishSamurai
Member since Feb 2020
4043 posts
Posted on 5/20/21 at 9:26 pm to
So far the data suggests nothing.

The time series/sample size is still too short/small.

The problem as you've stated earlier is most of the data is swag/made up pseudo bs at this point.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22714 posts
Posted on 5/20/21 at 9:27 pm to
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I should have qualified. The data so far suggests that people with natural immunities have been more susceptible to reinfection especially versus the variants. The vaccines have been more successful versus variants.

Obviously we will need to see over time.

Again, who said? Whose data?
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 5/20/21 at 9:27 pm to
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Ummmm, like 140 million have been vaccinated at this point. Of course some of them are going to die.


350M live here...of course some of them are gonna die
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130226 posts
Posted on 5/20/21 at 9:28 pm to
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Who said?



There have been many many many MANY peer reviewed studies so far.

University of California just competed one showing significantly higher antibodies in mRNA vaccinated persons versus natural immunity and far higher effectiveness against variants.

There are dozens of other studies all over the world with the same data.

Posted by AmishSamurai
Member since Feb 2020
4043 posts
Posted on 5/20/21 at 9:28 pm to
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Again, who said? Whose data?


The government, man. And the vaccine producers, man.

And those folks don't lie ...
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130226 posts
Posted on 5/20/21 at 9:30 pm to
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So far the data suggests nothing.

The time series/sample size is still too short/small.

The problem as you've stated earlier is most of the data is swag/made up pseudo bs at this point.



Long term we don’t know. But it’s almost universal that tested antibodies are significantly higher in vaccinated versus natural immunity, among other things.

There’s pretty significant data on the subject.
Posted by AmishSamurai
Member since Feb 2020
4043 posts
Posted on 5/20/21 at 9:31 pm to
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University of California just competed one showing significantly higher antibodies in mRNA vaccinated persons versus natural immunity and far higher effectiveness against variants.


Based on peer review studies, the earth has like 8 more years before we're all going to be dead.

Nevermind this was said in ...

1970
1980
1990
2000 ...

But please tell me more about this grift, er I mean peer reviewed studies .. which are the furthest thing from science ...
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22714 posts
Posted on 5/20/21 at 9:32 pm to
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University of California just competed one showing significantly higher antibodies in mRNA vaccinated persons versus natural immunity and far higher effectiveness against variants.

There are dozens of other studies all over the world with the same data.

And there are studies that say otherwise.

LINK

(This is a preprint. Study hasn’t been peer-reviewed yet. Was posted on this site earlier today by another poster)

And a question (honest question) - does higher antibodies correlate to lower reinfection rates? I thought immunity wasn't only about antibodies.
Posted by AmishSamurai
Member since Feb 2020
4043 posts
Posted on 5/20/21 at 9:33 pm to
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But it’s almost universal that tested antibodies are significantly higher in vaccinated versus natural immunity, among other things.


That's the funny thing about science ... everyone buys into absolutes.

Then a guy like Galileo comes along and fricks it all up ...
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
15213 posts
Posted on 5/20/21 at 9:35 pm to
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congrats I guess on getting vaccinated against something you've already survived?


like, for example, the flu?
Posted by td1
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
3175 posts
Posted on 5/20/21 at 9:35 pm to
Who cares what the numbers are of vaccine deaths. When you get down to a .0whatever percent chance of not dying from the virus, the .0whatever percent chance of not dying from the vaccine is moot. You can take simple precautions to exponentially reduce your chance of getting the virus in the first place. You can not take any precautions to not be part of the .0whatever percent the vaccine kills.

Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
15213 posts
Posted on 5/20/21 at 9:36 pm to
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Based on peer review studies, the earth has like 8 more years before we're all going to be dead.

Nevermind this was said in ...

1970
1980
1990
2000 ...


Was it, though?
Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
33616 posts
Posted on 5/20/21 at 9:38 pm to
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like, for example, the flu?
oh...so, now we can compare this to the flu?
Posted by Far north
Member since Feb 2019
99 posts
Posted on 5/20/21 at 9:38 pm to
Polio vaccine works.....you get the vaccine.....and you don’t get polio.
Measles vaccine.....no measles .
Covid vaccine ......well you can still get covid.....but only a little covid.....wtf?? Right??
Imagine only getting a little bit of polio......does it work that way? Or if you get polio.....you get polio. If you were vaccinated against polio.....you don’t get polio. Right??
Posted by AmishSamurai
Member since Feb 2020
4043 posts
Posted on 5/20/21 at 9:39 pm to
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22714 posts
Posted on 5/20/21 at 9:39 pm to
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like, for example, the flu?

I don't remember flu vaccine passports and keeping people out of schools, places of work, etc., for not having one.
Posted by AmishSamurai
Member since Feb 2020
4043 posts
Posted on 5/20/21 at 9:41 pm to
@Far north ...

That's not how the *new* "therapeutic" vaccines work.

You said the quiet part, out loud. Get in timeout.

Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130226 posts
Posted on 5/20/21 at 9:41 pm to
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Based on peer review studies, the earth has like 8 more years before we're all going to be dead.

Nevermind this was said in ...

1970
1980
1990
2000 ...

But please tell me more about this grift, er I mean peer reviewed studies .. which are the furthest thing from science ...


Look, the data here is significantly more objective than that used in climate science which to me isn’t really science at all but ok. It’s another false equivalency.
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