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re: CDC says 4,647 deaths reported after COVID-19 Vaccine

Posted on 5/20/21 at 9:08 pm to
Posted by AmishSamurai
Member since Feb 2020
3850 posts
Posted on 5/20/21 at 9:08 pm to
Y'all trying to win an argument on a message board are just like those who get a gold medal in the special Olympics ...

But carry on ...
Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
32733 posts
Posted on 5/20/21 at 9:11 pm to
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How about:

The number of people that had Covid that died.

because, 16+ months later, every woman, man and child has been exposed to covid, whether they've tested positive or not. So, people that haven't tested positive is actually an effing good thing and should be considered and not just throw aside like it doesn't matter.

The freaking 98% of people in the world who have NOT tested positive actually matter.
This post was edited on 5/20/21 at 9:15 pm
Posted by TK421
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2011
10420 posts
Posted on 5/20/21 at 9:12 pm to
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the math yourself. Allegedly, less than 3.4 million of about 7.9 billion have died from covid.

Allegedly, 4,647 of about 150 million vaccinated people have died.


This might be the dumbest post of the week.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33398 posts
Posted on 5/20/21 at 9:12 pm to
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On the flipside,

There is ZERO flipside. Reported incidents to VAERS are specified within a limited time frame after a vaccination, and defined as a clear outlier to known adverse effects

Death would never be assumed to be a known adverse effect
quote:

*Any event listed by the vaccine manufacturer as a contraindication to doses of the vaccine.
*Any event listed that occurs within the specified time period after vaccination.

VAERS has several limitations, including underreporting, inconsistent data quality, and inadequate data about the number of people vaccinated. There has been a surge in reports to VAERS during the COVID-19 vaccination period.
Posted by AmishSamurai
Member since Feb 2020
3850 posts
Posted on 5/20/21 at 9:13 pm to
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This might be the dumbest post of the week.


You must be new around here.

There is a lot of time left in the week
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
128036 posts
Posted on 5/20/21 at 9:13 pm to
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because, 16+ months later, every woman, man and child has been exposed to covid, whether they've tested positive or not.




Do you have any evidence to support this whatsoever? I bet not.

I for instance have actually had Covid. And been vaccinated.
Posted by AmishSamurai
Member since Feb 2020
3850 posts
Posted on 5/20/21 at 9:14 pm to
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And been vaccinated.


What are your pronouns?

Imperative to know how I should feel about this statement.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
14916 posts
Posted on 5/20/21 at 9:15 pm to
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Virus kills 0.001% of people = OMG, shut down the world

Vaccine kills 0.001% of people = OMG, not even a significant number


Even if you took this number at face value and ascribed every death to the vaccine, it's .00003%, an order of magnitude lower.

In reality, it's even less than that.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
128036 posts
Posted on 5/20/21 at 9:16 pm to
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There is ZERO flipside


This is quite simply, not true. You don’t have a clue how VAERS actually works or what it is.

But you also think the earth is 6000 years old, so.
Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
32733 posts
Posted on 5/20/21 at 9:16 pm to
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I for instance have actually had Covid. And been vaccinated
congrats I guess on getting vaccinated against something you've already survived?
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
128036 posts
Posted on 5/20/21 at 9:17 pm to
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What are your pronouns?



I am an Otherkin

I identify as a 1993 Ford F-150.
Posted by Nurbis
Member since May 2020
2112 posts
Posted on 5/20/21 at 9:17 pm to
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I'm willing to bet that most of those 4,647 would not have died from COVID.


Willing to bet very few if any have died from the vaccine.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
128036 posts
Posted on 5/20/21 at 9:19 pm to
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congrats I guess on getting vaccinated against something you've already survived?



Which you can get again. Natural immunity is not the same nor anywhere near as effective as vaccination immunity.

Regardless I didn’t give a shite about getting Covid again. It wasn’t that big a deal for me. It was purely for future travel related purposes.
Posted by Little Trump
Florida
Member since Nov 2017
5817 posts
Posted on 5/20/21 at 9:20 pm to
And CDC is said to be reporting 1% of the true vax deaths

Hank Aaron and Marvin Hagler weren’t reported vax deaths ...... but they were!

If 4600 is 1% then true number of deaths are 460,000 which is 1/300th or .3% of the jabbed

That’s a number worth fearing there
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21840 posts
Posted on 5/20/21 at 9:22 pm to
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Natural immunity is not the same nor anywhere near as effective as vaccination immunity.

Who said?
Posted by AmishSamurai
Member since Feb 2020
3850 posts
Posted on 5/20/21 at 9:22 pm to
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Natural immunity is not the same nor anywhere near as effective as vaccination immunity.


Just when I was starting to feel your vibe ...

You go and fail science.

There is nothing to prove this yet.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
128036 posts
Posted on 5/20/21 at 9:22 pm to
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If 4600 is 1%


It’s like .0003%

quote:

And CDC is said to be reporting 1% of the true vax deaths

Hank Aaron and Marvin Hagler weren’t reported vax deaths ...... but they were!


Present your evidence for any of this.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
128036 posts
Posted on 5/20/21 at 9:23 pm to
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You go and fail science.

There is nothing to prove this yet


That data so far indicates this for these vaccines. It is not always the case.

But that is what the data SUGGESTS so far. You are right, I should have qualified it.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21840 posts
Posted on 5/20/21 at 9:24 pm to
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But that is what the data SUGGESTS so far.

Who said?

You just told some other poster to present his evidence, where's yours?
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
128036 posts
Posted on 5/20/21 at 9:24 pm to
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Who said?



I should have qualified. The data so far suggests that people with natural immunities have been more susceptible to reinfection especially versus the variants. The vaccines have been more successful versus variants.

Obviously we will need to see over time.
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