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re: CDC admits pcr test can't tell covid from flu
Posted on 12/27/21 at 9:40 pm to Shankopotomus
Posted on 12/27/21 at 9:40 pm to Shankopotomus
I got to be honest at first I thought all of this was fringe stuff. So much fringe stuff that no one believed the boy that cried wolf. I always knew govt sucked monkey balls I didn't think they sucked this bad.
Now back to the drawing board...
Trump has been pushing these things. Was he fooled with having a bad flu? Was he fooled with the rapid tests?
Now back to the drawing board...
Trump has been pushing these things. Was he fooled with having a bad flu? Was he fooled with the rapid tests?
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Posted on 12/27/21 at 9:41 pm to Mickey Goldmill
Sure lol.
Posted on 12/27/21 at 9:41 pm to lsufan31
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Did you know that there are multiple PCR tests from different manufacturers for Covid?
So you are saying these tests are not consistent or universal, and second opinions are needed?
Lmao!
Posted on 12/27/21 at 9:41 pm to Shankopotomus
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Oh, and any responsible doctor was saying this for the last year or more — it’s a virus test and didn’t differentiate between other Rona Viruses well (cold/flu) etc
I think you’re confused. The old tests do differentiate and so do the new ones. The only difference is this is a single test for both that tells you if you have the flu, Covid, or neither.
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And then they try to tell you what variant you have with that shite?
Individual clinics/doctors aren’t doing that. The results have to be sent off to labs for that determination.
Posted on 12/27/21 at 9:44 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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The old tests do differentiate
From the link directly from the CDC:
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The CDC admits that the PCR test cannot differentiate between SARS-CoV-2 and influenza viruses.
Posted on 12/27/21 at 9:45 pm to smh4wg
Read the source in your own link
The CDC wanted doctors to test for covid AND Flu, not just assume they have COVID.
And this is coming from someone who doesn’t like the CDC.
The CDC wanted doctors to test for covid AND Flu, not just assume they have COVID.
And this is coming from someone who doesn’t like the CDC.
Posted on 12/27/21 at 9:46 pm to Shankopotomus
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From the link directly from the CDC: quote: The CDC admits that the PCR test cannot differentiate between SARS-CoV-2 and influenza viruses.
This isn’t in the link
This is the entire alert from the CDC:
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Audience: Individuals Performing COVID-19 Testing Level: Laboratory Alert After December 31, 2021, CDC will withdraw the request to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) for Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) of the CDC 2019-Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel, the assay first introduced in February 2020 for detection of SARS-CoV-2 only. CDC is providing this advance notice for clinical laboratories to have adequate time to select and implement one of the many FDA-authorized alternatives. Visit the FDA website for a list of authorized COVID-19 diagnostic methods. For a summary of the performance of FDA-authorized molecular methods with an FDA reference panel, visit this page. In preparation for this change, CDC recommends clinical laboratories and testing sites that have been using the CDC 2019-nCoV RT-PCR assay select and begin their transition to another FDA-authorized COVID-19 test. CDC encourages laboratories to consider adoption of a multiplexed method that can facilitate detection and differentiation of SARS-CoV-2 and influenza viruses. Such assays can facilitate continued testing for both influenza and SARS-CoV-2 and can save both time and resources as we head into influenza season. Laboratories and testing sites should validate and verify their selected assay within their facility before beginning clinical testing.
Where does it say it doesn’t differentiate between the two?
This post was edited on 12/27/21 at 9:48 pm
Posted on 12/27/21 at 9:47 pm to Shankopotomus
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From the link directly from the CDC:
That quote is not from the cdc. That’s from the person who interpreted the cdc guidance incorrectly.
Posted on 12/27/21 at 9:48 pm to Mickey Goldmill
Ill back you up here Mickey. You are correct.
Posted on 12/27/21 at 9:48 pm to smh4wg
Tell me you don’t understand how PCR works without telling me you don’t understand how PCR works.
Posted on 12/27/21 at 9:49 pm to Mickey Goldmill
Fair enough
The process clearly failed, as a positive test should have resulted in more parsing/different assays to ensure what the patient was actually positive “of”
It’s just a disappointment- as with what the vaccines promised - as with the lack of treatment / denial of treatment options etc.
I’m hoping a lot of people have learned a lot about who to trust and how incentives drive the world after all of this
The process clearly failed, as a positive test should have resulted in more parsing/different assays to ensure what the patient was actually positive “of”
It’s just a disappointment- as with what the vaccines promised - as with the lack of treatment / denial of treatment options etc.
I’m hoping a lot of people have learned a lot about who to trust and how incentives drive the world after all of this
Posted on 12/27/21 at 9:50 pm to Mickey Goldmill
It’s still real to you huh?
Posted on 12/27/21 at 9:50 pm to beauxgy
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So you are saying these tests are not consistent or universal, and second opinions are needed?
I don’t think he’s saying that. It’s just that there are several other molecular diagnostic tests on the market. The CDC announcement in the link was abbreviated as in the very next paragraph the announcement links to other diagnostic tests, both serology and molecular. It would be utterly insane if every PCR diagnostic could not differentiate between COVID and the flu.
Posted on 12/27/21 at 9:50 pm to WaWaWeeWa
Oh I’m no doctor or laboratory expert, not trying to play one on a message board either
Posted on 12/27/21 at 9:51 pm to Mickey Goldmill
you got 33 dv's, at least 20 of which are people who know the OP is BS, but want to downvote anyone who disagrees with their agenda. Pathetic people.
Posted on 12/27/21 at 9:51 pm to crazy4lsu
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It would be utterly insane if every PCR diagnostic could not differentiate between COVID and the flu
Boy wouldn’t it
Posted on 12/27/21 at 10:16 pm to smh4wg
That has been know for a while it was on the CDC website.
Posted on 12/27/21 at 10:25 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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single test for both Covid and flu.
does it come back with a Covid/Flu/NotSick answer?
or
does it just come back with just a Sick/NotSick answer??
so that the BigPharm/MSM/DEM cabal could call it COVID??
Posted on 12/27/21 at 10:25 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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Because they share many of the same symptoms and both expect to rise in cases around the same time. My best friend works at an urgent care. They spend the vast majority of their time these days testing people. If they can speed up the process, that’s a good thing.
So people with the flu...fall under the umbrella of Covid?
Or will Covid fall under the umbrella of the flu?
I think we all know the answer to those questions. And I think we all know who it benefits....it ain’t you or me.
This post was edited on 12/27/21 at 10:30 pm
Posted on 12/27/21 at 10:26 pm to Blitzed
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I think we all know the answer to those questions.
I asked a lib friend about this last year about this time and he told me that this showed how effective the masks were = also prevented the FLU!!!
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