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re: CBP Says Americans Have No Fourth Amendment At The Airport
Posted on 12/16/25 at 10:47 am to Old Money
Posted on 12/16/25 at 10:47 am to Old Money
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If it happens under Trump its okay, if it happens under a Dem its completely unconstitutional and this should blow up.
You don’t think it happens when a dem is president??
look at the dates of the several cases Moss posted. This post was edited on 12/16/25 at 10:48 am
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Posted on 12/16/25 at 10:48 am to ChatGPT of LA
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He retains his rights. Especially 4 hrs later when they were absolute, as to who he was.
Well, 50 years of Supreme Court precedent disagrees.
Posted on 12/16/25 at 10:48 am to 4cubbies
Just came through the Houston airport and was singled out in line for search. Handed them my phone. Took less than 5 minutes and walked away. They literally do not do shite with it. It never left my sight. These mfers are like the people that act like assholes when pulled over about they know what their rights are. They are not invading your rights stop being a dick. Dude sat in there for hours because he was a dick and made their job difficult.
This post was edited on 12/16/25 at 10:51 am
Posted on 12/16/25 at 10:53 am to 4cubbies
Biden Administration Mandates
President Biden issued executive orders in September 2021 that required specific groups to get vaccinated:
Federal Employees and Contractors: Required all federal executive branch workers and employees of companies doing business with the federal government to be vaccinated, with no option for regular testing instead (unless an exemption was granted).
Large Private Employers: The Department of Labor's Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) developed a rule for private businesses with 100 or more employees, requiring workers to get vaccinated or submit to weekly testing. This mandate was later blocked by the Supreme Court.
Healthcare Workers: The Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) issued a rule requiring vaccination for nearly all employees at healthcare facilities that received federal Medicare or Medicaid funding. This mandate was upheld by the Supreme Court.
These mandates faced numerous legal challenges and were a significant point of political contention. Most federal COVID-19 vaccine requirements ended when the public health emergency expired in May 2023.
Trump Administration Stance
The Trump administration did not implement any federal vaccine mandates.
President Biden issued executive orders in September 2021 that required specific groups to get vaccinated:
Federal Employees and Contractors: Required all federal executive branch workers and employees of companies doing business with the federal government to be vaccinated, with no option for regular testing instead (unless an exemption was granted).
Large Private Employers: The Department of Labor's Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) developed a rule for private businesses with 100 or more employees, requiring workers to get vaccinated or submit to weekly testing. This mandate was later blocked by the Supreme Court.
Healthcare Workers: The Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) issued a rule requiring vaccination for nearly all employees at healthcare facilities that received federal Medicare or Medicaid funding. This mandate was upheld by the Supreme Court.
These mandates faced numerous legal challenges and were a significant point of political contention. Most federal COVID-19 vaccine requirements ended when the public health emergency expired in May 2023.
Trump Administration Stance
The Trump administration did not implement any federal vaccine mandates.
Posted on 12/16/25 at 10:53 am to BoomerandSooner
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He did share a name with a drug lord that was on the loose and had faked his death.
Who knew Wilmer Chavarria was such a common name...
Posted on 12/16/25 at 10:54 am to 4cubbies
You worried you will lose your slave labor
Posted on 12/16/25 at 10:54 am to 4cubbies
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The blind trust of the government is horrifying.
Says the filth that begs for and promotes the need for more and bigger government.
Posted on 12/16/25 at 10:55 am to 4cubbies
see my post above
u just got destroyed
now log off for the day clown.
u just got destroyed
now log off for the day clown.
Posted on 12/16/25 at 10:55 am to Ingeniero
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Being held until you give them access to your personal devices is bullshite.
Absolutely.
Posted on 12/16/25 at 10:55 am to ChatGPT of LA
This should help you comprehend. Regardless of being a citizen CPB has abilities, 4th amendment or not. If you look at wildlife agents ability you would really be confused I imagine
Reentry into U.S. airports involves specific laws based on your status (citizen, green card holder, visa holder), requiring valid documents like passports/green cards, and subjecting everyone to Customs and Border Protection (CBP) scrutiny, including potential interviews and searches (even digital), with citizens having rights to question identity/citizenship but potentially facing delays; non-citizens risk denial or penalties if they violated prior immigration laws (like unlawful presence or removal) or lack proper documentation, while illegal reentry after removal is a serious felony.
For U.S. Citizens:
Right to Entry: You cannot be denied entry, but you must present a valid passport for air travel.
Scrutiny: CBP can still stop you, question your identity/citizenship, search baggage, and inspect electronic devices (though this is legally contested).
Reentry into U.S. airports involves specific laws based on your status (citizen, green card holder, visa holder), requiring valid documents like passports/green cards, and subjecting everyone to Customs and Border Protection (CBP) scrutiny, including potential interviews and searches (even digital), with citizens having rights to question identity/citizenship but potentially facing delays; non-citizens risk denial or penalties if they violated prior immigration laws (like unlawful presence or removal) or lack proper documentation, while illegal reentry after removal is a serious felony.
For U.S. Citizens:
Right to Entry: You cannot be denied entry, but you must present a valid passport for air travel.
Scrutiny: CBP can still stop you, question your identity/citizenship, search baggage, and inspect electronic devices (though this is legally contested).
Posted on 12/16/25 at 10:56 am to ChatGPT of LA
We found the emotionally charged moron in the thread.
Posted on 12/16/25 at 10:57 am to 4cubbies
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where are these people legally? no man's land?
Posted on 12/16/25 at 10:57 am to 4cubbies
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Who knew Wilmer Chavarria was such a common name...
Posted on 12/16/25 at 10:57 am to 4cubbies
Those agents should be fired. That’s blatantly unconstitutional if there was no reasonable suspicion to search him. Even if there was, you cannot deny him the right to call an attorney
Posted on 12/16/25 at 10:58 am to ChatGPT of LA
As far as your contraband question he would be charged here as it is controlled by American authorities, this still doesn’t mean it’s not international till processed.
Posted on 12/16/25 at 10:58 am to BoomerandSooner
Let's see if chubbies glances over the drug lord with same name that faked his death being on the run at the time tidbit dropped here. I'm guessing she'll completely ignore it.
So instead of the "CBP bad" story she's throwing out there. We have a dude with the same name of a Ecuadorian drug lord on the run coming through an airport refusing to give federal agents information. Yeah, that's going to get your dumb arse detained in a heartbeat.
Here's a rundown on this drama queen from a quick google search:
• Chavarria has been a citizen since 2018.
• He super flaming gay.
• He's the superintendent of a schoolboard in Vermont.
• This past Febuary his district was the first in the state to pass a "Sanctuary School Policy."
• In April he spoke out against the state education department’s request that districts sign a U.S. Department of Education certification that they weren’t using illegal DEI practices.
• And he posed (on the right) for this picture for one of his interviews about this incident.
So instead of the "CBP bad" story she's throwing out there. We have a dude with the same name of a Ecuadorian drug lord on the run coming through an airport refusing to give federal agents information. Yeah, that's going to get your dumb arse detained in a heartbeat.
Here's a rundown on this drama queen from a quick google search:
• Chavarria has been a citizen since 2018.
• He super flaming gay.
• He's the superintendent of a schoolboard in Vermont.
• This past Febuary his district was the first in the state to pass a "Sanctuary School Policy."
• In April he spoke out against the state education department’s request that districts sign a U.S. Department of Education certification that they weren’t using illegal DEI practices.
• And he posed (on the right) for this picture for one of his interviews about this incident.
Posted on 12/16/25 at 11:00 am to Antonio Moss
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When you falsely title the thread as "CBP says Americans have no Fourth Amendment rights at airports", yes. You are equating a factually incorrect article with your personal opinion.
I copied and pasted this from the article.
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A reasonable person would use discernment anytime a journalist with no legal training opines about the Constitutional legality of an action. At a minimum, you could have taken ten minutes to look into the issue before sprinting here to post it.
You are suggesting I do some sort of vetting? This is basically the recycled random Tweet board and you are scolding me for posting an article about a US citizen detained by CBP.
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This has been the law for almost 50 years and you didn't find it concerning until a travel blog told you to.
It could be law for 5,000 years and it would still be cause for concern. You're right, I'm not aware of every legally allowed potential government abuse. Hopefully this travel blog will keep be abreast of more. Your disapproval is noted, though.
Posted on 12/16/25 at 11:01 am to 4cubbies
In a high trust society it is easier to assign the benefit of the doubt to ones fellow neighbors.
A low trust society tilts the benefit of the doubt away from one's neighbors and more toward authority.
Unfortunately the foreign invasion is moving us to a low trust society. It's not by accident.
A low trust society tilts the benefit of the doubt away from one's neighbors and more toward authority.
Unfortunately the foreign invasion is moving us to a low trust society. It's not by accident.
Posted on 12/16/25 at 11:02 am to deltaland
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That’s blatantly unconstitutional if there was no reasonable suspicion to search him. Even if there was, you cannot deny him the right to call an attorney
It looks like all of this perfectly legal.
Posted on 12/16/25 at 11:03 am to CDawson
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Says the filth that begs for and promotes the need for more and bigger government.
link?
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