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re: CBO: Trump’s Tariffs Could Slash Deficit by $4 Trillion
Posted on 9/3/25 at 11:13 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 9/3/25 at 11:13 am to SlowFlowPro
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How do you get the domestic manufacturing without the higher prices?
My only post to you today.
Because companies will have their bottom line profits cut to absorb. Thats a lot of money and that means building here adds that profit margin lost.
The same crew here tends to have no thought to reality.
- no company is giving up the American market over tariffs.
- they are not going to create an atmosphere to have competition step in and take market share.
- they want better profits and will gravitate towards the options available. Build the required portion here to avoid the tariffs.
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Posted on 9/3/25 at 11:13 am to GRTiger
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We're talking about foreign organizations here right?
No, we're talking about anybody who is paying the tariffs.
Posted on 9/3/25 at 11:14 am to wackatimesthree
quote:Yeah. You'd have to think the government will *perfectly* price the tariffs on every product precisely match the COGS of domestic manufacturers.
If your market position as a domestic auto company is that you get the market share of people who choose you over a foreign company like BMW, for example, because you provide a cheaper alternative, and BMW increases in price by 20%, you can also raise your price and still maintain the same gap between the foreign competitor and your product.
That's a faith in government only a progressive leftist can have.
Posted on 9/3/25 at 11:15 am to SlowFlowPro
SFP
If the consumers don’t/won’t pay the increased price (assuming the tariffs are passed along), then supply and demand dictates the market and corrects the increase. That would lower the price on the consumer or push domestic production, which is a benefit to OUR country.
If the consumers don’t/won’t pay the increased price (assuming the tariffs are passed along), then supply and demand dictates the market and corrects the increase. That would lower the price on the consumer or push domestic production, which is a benefit to OUR country.
Posted on 9/3/25 at 11:16 am to Taxing Authority
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It also doesn't show that you're not a child molester. But hey... it' clearly shows businesses plan to pass more of the cost along than they currently are. If you want to argue absurdum absolutes, feel free.
I am not the person that claimed every dollar was going to be passed on. The "absolutist" is the guy writing on a napkin. Take it up with him.
Posted on 9/3/25 at 11:18 am to Jjdoc
quote:
- no company is giving up the American market over tariffs.
- they are not going to create an atmosphere to have competition step in and take market share.
Of course they will if the numbers say they will. You seem to think that companies will lose money just to keep market share. They won't. Not indefinitely, anyway. As a short term strategy that ends with them raising prices they might.
Companies concede market share all the time if the numbers say it would be more beneficial for them to do so.
quote:
they want better profits
I thought market share was their primary concern, even if it costs them profits. Which is it?
quote:
Build the required portion here to avoid the tariffs.
Great, that solves their problems, but what we got was a handful of $17 an hour jobs and a baseball that used to cost $8 that now costs $12.
Why is that a better situation for the consumer?
This is one of those things that I don't understand how y'all cannot see. Bringing manufacturing back by all of these artificial mechanisms is not a good thing. Not economically, anyway.
The manufacturing left in the first place because it didn't make economic sense to make it here. If it had, it would still be here.
This post was edited on 9/3/25 at 11:25 am
Posted on 9/3/25 at 11:21 am to Jjdoc
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Tariffs are in place now.
And over the next 6 months you'll see prices slowly increase.
Congrats, I suppose.
Posted on 9/3/25 at 11:22 am to udtiger
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I am not the person that claimed every dollar was going to be passed on.
Can you explain to me how it is possible to not pass every dollar on in some way?
I mean, I suppose:
IF the foreign exporter in question was willing to sell to the importer at a lower price to offset the tariff and
IF the importer didn't raise prices anyway just because he could and
IF the foreign exporter wasn't part of the NASDAQ exchange or any mutual funds
then I guess it would be theoretically possible. But I don't think that's going to be the majority of cases.
Posted on 9/3/25 at 11:24 am to TigerLord2020
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If the consumers don’t/won’t pay the increased price (assuming the tariffs are passed along), then supply and demand dictates the market and corrects the increase
We offshored rubber dog shite factories because its not efficient to produce here. The factories that would be used to produce rubber dog shite are now producing higher value products with jobs that pay more.
Wanting all mfg returned here is retarded.
Posted on 9/3/25 at 11:24 am to RohanGonzales
You really think people are not going to notice their purchasing power decreasing?
Posted on 9/3/25 at 11:25 am to PaperTiger
quote:
The point is to stop buying that product made overseas. You don't HAVE to buy that same priduct.
Mmm
Let’s say Americans stop buying all that imported stuff. What happened to all that tariff money then?
Posted on 9/3/25 at 11:25 am to AGGIES
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You really think people are not going to notice their purchasing power decreasing?
Theyre giving the same fricking argument progressives give regarding corporate taxes. Same exact argument.
Posted on 9/3/25 at 11:26 am to AGGIES
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You really think people are not going to notice their purchasing power decreasing?
They sure did under Biden, and that was with the legacy media carrying as much water as could possibly be carried for their team.
How much more will people realize it when the messaging is 180 degrees opposite?
Posted on 9/3/25 at 11:26 am to wackatimesthree
quote:
Can you explain to me how it is possible to not pass every dollar on in some way?
A foreign manufacturer may lower their prices and "eat" the tariff (some or all) to remain competitive against non-tariffed equivalents. Or, if they have domestic manufacturing, they may increase production as domestic facilities to avoid tariffs (or build a domestic manufacturing capacity).
Posted on 9/3/25 at 11:28 am to AGGIES
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You really think people are not going to notice their purchasing power decreasing?
We all make these sacrifices for the common good bro.
We need crackheads and meth addicts working high paying factory jobs!
Posted on 9/3/25 at 11:29 am to PaperTiger
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The point is to stop buying that product made overseas. You don't HAVE to buy that same priduct.
You have three choices.
1. Stop buying the product altogether. Problem with that is that you can't. Not if you need housing, health care, auto insurance, or anything produced or sold using a commercial building or that was shipped.
2. Only buy the product if it was made in America. So great, you don't pay the tariff, you just pay the difference in labor, which is what made sense for it to be manufactured somewhere else in the first place. It's the same difference.
3. Buy the import and pay the tariff.
Posted on 9/3/25 at 11:30 am to udtiger
quote:This presumes that the foreign manufacture doesn't have any of the pricing power. This isn't true, though. If domestic importers held pricing power, we'd see prices at or equivalent with domestic manufacturing already. There would be no need to import lower cost goods.
A foreign manufacturer may lower their prices and "eat" the tariff (some or all) to remain competitive against non-tariffed equivalents.
quote:I don't understand why so many hop domestic manufacturers achieve lower profits. But... maybe? Surveys so far only indicate that's about 4% of manufacturers, tho. Guess 96% is less than 100% so it's all good!
Or, if they have domestic manufacturing, they may increase production as domestic facilities to avoid tariffs (or build a domestic manufacturing capacity).
This post was edited on 9/3/25 at 11:31 am
Posted on 9/3/25 at 11:30 am to TigerLord2020
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That would lower the price on the consumer or push domestic production, which is a benefit to OUR country.
Inefficient domestic production propped up by taxing the competition is not a benefit to OUR country.
Posted on 9/3/25 at 11:31 am to SlowFlowPro
Feminine napkin math. But you get the gist.
Posted on 9/3/25 at 11:32 am to Flats
quote:Right. Why wouldn't we shut down the internet, mandate all communication by typewriter, and only use horse-drawn travel and transportation. We'd create millions and millions of jobs! Maybe the Amish are onto somethign.
Inefficient domestic production propped up by taxing the competition is not a benefit to OUR country.
This post was edited on 9/3/25 at 11:33 am
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