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re: CBO: Trump’s Tariffs Could Slash Deficit by $4 Trillion
Posted on 9/3/25 at 11:33 am to udtiger
Posted on 9/3/25 at 11:33 am to udtiger
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A foreign manufacturer may lower their prices and "eat" the tariff (some or all) to remain competitive against non-tariffed equivalents.
Which means that their profitability decreases, the stock market reacts, and the value of your 401k goes down.
Still costs you money.
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Or, if they have domestic manufacturing, they may increase production as domestic facilities to avoid tariffs
Which means they are now paying labor 3-4 times as much and the price of the product still increases, by at least as much as the tariffs...maybe more.
Still costs you money.
What else you got?
This post was edited on 9/3/25 at 11:35 am
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Posted on 9/3/25 at 11:35 am to AGGIES
Manufacturing isn’t going to just flip a switch and come back to the US
A lot depends on what is being manufactured and it’s price point to the consumer
Clothing industry, for example, would likely not come back en masse. Labor costs too high here plus the regulatory environment makes it just too expense to operate and sell for a suitable margin.
So it all depends but if the intent is to bring back manufacturing, the tariffs likely won’t be impactful in our lives in day to day type stuff.
And even if ALL industry came back and started manufacturing here again, would consumers even buy the goods? And if they did, the tariff money that is so beloved, will go away.
Then what?
A lot depends on what is being manufactured and it’s price point to the consumer
Clothing industry, for example, would likely not come back en masse. Labor costs too high here plus the regulatory environment makes it just too expense to operate and sell for a suitable margin.
So it all depends but if the intent is to bring back manufacturing, the tariffs likely won’t be impactful in our lives in day to day type stuff.
And even if ALL industry came back and started manufacturing here again, would consumers even buy the goods? And if they did, the tariff money that is so beloved, will go away.
Then what?
This post was edited on 9/3/25 at 11:36 am
Posted on 9/3/25 at 11:39 am to SlidellCajun
The point is choice. If you choose to buy a foreign made product, that's your choice.
Let's be honest. The American consumer on average can't help but spend, and won't cut their spending for awhile. They will just bitch about it. See national CC debt..
Let's be honest. The American consumer on average can't help but spend, and won't cut their spending for awhile. They will just bitch about it. See national CC debt..
Posted on 9/3/25 at 11:41 am to RohanGonzales
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says who? How the frick can you post that number and not link where it came from?
SFP does not need to provide quotes. The news articles get their quotes from him!
Posted on 9/3/25 at 11:42 am to RohanGonzales
Because he is a dildo progtard.
Posted on 9/3/25 at 11:43 am to PaperTiger
If you had a clothing business, would you really want to move your manufacturing to the US so people could have a “choice”?
Posted on 9/3/25 at 11:44 am to BurlesonCountyAg
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says who? How the frick can you post that number and not link where it came from?
SFP does not need to provide quotes
There has been hundreds of links posted over the years showing you why yall are wrong and you people dont read them.
The only thing that matters to MAGA is "What Trump thinks right now"
Posted on 9/3/25 at 11:45 am to SlidellCajun
They already are and most will be in production within 12 months. Crown Royal announced their production move from Canada yesterday. 
Sorry for your loss.
Sorry for your loss.
Posted on 9/3/25 at 11:46 am to RogerTheShrubber
Sniff, sniff, sniff. Rog tears are the best tears.
Posted on 9/3/25 at 11:47 am to SlowFlowPro
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I was commenting on him bringing up one example of the goalless, malleable nature of this from MAGA. There are no stated goals and they shift for every story and new piece of data.
As a lawyer, you simply cannot be this dumb.
I can only assume that as a lawyer, you have taken part of some negotiations. What you claim as “malleable” is simply how President Donald J Trump does a part of his public negotiations.
Posted on 9/3/25 at 11:47 am to Houag80
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Sniff, sniff, sniff. Rog tears are the best tears.
They go well with MAGA illiteracy.
Posted on 9/3/25 at 11:48 am to wackatimesthree
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course they will if the numbers say they will. You seem to think that companies will lose money just to keep market share.
Flawed. They are not being placed in that position. They have an out.
I get that you want to play it both ways to suit your argument, but its simply flawed.
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thought market share was their primary concern, even if it costs them profits. Which is it?
They are connected. You know that. So why play this stupid game?
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Great, that solves their problems, but what we got was a handful of $17 an hour jobs and a baseball that used to cost $8 that now costs $12.
Ok slow flo alter. Why pull numbers out of your arse?
12 baseballs for 37. Thats not $12 you threw out there. Not even close
Posted on 9/3/25 at 11:48 am to wackatimesthree
1 is possible. Consumers just don't have any constraint right now. I personally have stopped buying quite a few things, and I can only imagine others have made such spending cuts. I know not many though.
2. It is the same difference, except now American workforce benefits and not Mexico or China or Germany.
3. Absolutely. If you can afford it, go for it.
If foreign countries want to compete with US prices, its up to them to come up with ways to structure for lower pricing if they want to keep the #1 consumer in the world as a customer. They shouldn't get a pass just because.
2. It is the same difference, except now American workforce benefits and not Mexico or China or Germany.
3. Absolutely. If you can afford it, go for it.
If foreign countries want to compete with US prices, its up to them to come up with ways to structure for lower pricing if they want to keep the #1 consumer in the world as a customer. They shouldn't get a pass just because.
Posted on 9/3/25 at 11:49 am to RogerTheShrubber
Did you find that retort from your bottle?
Posted on 9/3/25 at 11:49 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
First of all projecting this shite out 10 years is asinine. You can not successfully project out 10 years when the variable you are using change weekly as trade deals are settled.
Interest rates don't remain stagnant for ten years either. EU economies are weak and getting weaker. All of this will change the calculations by the end of the month if not sooner.
Would be more realistic to project out one year with the understanding that that figure is an estimate and will likely change as the world changes.
Interest rates don't remain stagnant for ten years either. EU economies are weak and getting weaker. All of this will change the calculations by the end of the month if not sooner.
Would be more realistic to project out one year with the understanding that that figure is an estimate and will likely change as the world changes.
Posted on 9/3/25 at 11:50 am to Houag80
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Did you find that retort from your bottle?
Did you find your words in your diaper?
Do you actually know enough about the subject to discuss it or do you want to continue deflecting?
Your ideal is wealth redistribution (massive tariff policy) which is left wing bullshite.
This post was edited on 9/3/25 at 11:52 am
Posted on 9/3/25 at 11:51 am to RogerTheShrubber
Your narrative is so tiresome.
Posted on 9/3/25 at 11:53 am to Houag80
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Your narrative is so tiresome.
Of course you would think so, youre not smart enough to understand it.
Posted on 9/3/25 at 11:55 am to RogerTheShrubber
Okay. 
Posted on 9/3/25 at 11:57 am to SlidellCajun
No. But because the consumer has a choice, i better make the right decision, or else i lose market share.
Now add to that. Say you were a clothing manufacturer in the US that was contemplating moving manufacturing abroad for lower costs that will now be offset by higher tariffs. Are you still going? How many jobs just got saved?
Now add to that. Say you were a clothing manufacturer in the US that was contemplating moving manufacturing abroad for lower costs that will now be offset by higher tariffs. Are you still going? How many jobs just got saved?
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