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Catholic Who Expressed Church Teaching On Homosexual Adoption Under Fire By GOP…
Posted on 6/13/21 at 9:23 am
Posted on 6/13/21 at 9:23 am
…in the People’s Republic of Massachusetts.
Nearly all Mass. House Republicans call for GOP chairman to act against anti-gay remarks — or resign: “We always say we want a big tent and to bring anyone into the party. Well Mr. Lyons, this was your opportunity to do that."
It increasingly appears the GOP is a “big tent” party — as long as you conform to the dictates of the political ideology of the woke mob.
True liberty necessarily entails the possibility that people will say, do and believe things with which you may disagree or find offensive.
Who is actually being “intolerant” here?
Nearly all Mass. House Republicans call for GOP chairman to act against anti-gay remarks — or resign: “We always say we want a big tent and to bring anyone into the party. Well Mr. Lyons, this was your opportunity to do that."
It increasingly appears the GOP is a “big tent” party — as long as you conform to the dictates of the political ideology of the woke mob.
True liberty necessarily entails the possibility that people will say, do and believe things with which you may disagree or find offensive.
Who is actually being “intolerant” here?
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Posted on 6/13/21 at 9:28 am to Toomer Deplorable
Feckless GOP takes a stand on something like this. Go figure
Posted on 6/13/21 at 9:34 am to Toomer Deplorable
He’s free to hold that belief, and church run adoption agencies should have the right to dole out children as they see fit, but the idea that you’d rather a kid spend their entire childhood in a group home or foster care than be adopted by a gay couple is completely foreign to me. How anyone can look at the shocking data on life outcomes for kids who spend prolonged periods of time in those systems and decide that’s the preferable option…well, I’ll never understand it.
Posted on 6/13/21 at 9:53 am to loogaroo
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Feckless GOP
Posted on 6/13/21 at 10:14 am to Toomer Deplorable
Would they take a stand on a muslim in the democratic party that wants to kill gays, I didn't think so. The GOP continues to go left when the left goes FAR left. Guess they didn't learn a damn thing from DJT ?
Posted on 6/13/21 at 10:14 am to Toomer Deplorable
America is crumbling morally. I look for reason and all I see is absurdity. It's the dawning of Sodom and Gomorrah Part II.
Moral Relativism has now replaced truth.
Moral Relativism has now replaced truth.
This post was edited on 6/13/21 at 5:51 pm
Posted on 6/13/21 at 10:20 am to loogaroo
The Republicans live and die by the approval of the Democrats.
They will grovel at your feet, to prove how anti-racist they are.
They also make the mistake that most Western churches make. It’s not enough to speak about your values, you have to condemn the things you stand against.
They will grovel at your feet, to prove how anti-racist they are.
They also make the mistake that most Western churches make. It’s not enough to speak about your values, you have to condemn the things you stand against.
This post was edited on 6/13/21 at 10:23 am
Posted on 6/13/21 at 12:14 pm to Toomer Deplorable
Keep telling you "Take control from the inside" people: the GOP is a lost cause. Kill it, and start our own American party.
Posted on 6/13/21 at 12:29 pm to Toomer Deplorable
Go to hell, GOP
Posted on 6/13/21 at 12:31 pm to Toomer Deplorable
The GOP isn’t a big tent party anymore. It’s a run up the score party with the groups it appeals to, which seems to work better than pretending to be a big tent.
Posted on 6/13/21 at 12:41 pm to Roger Klarvin
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but the idea that you’d rather a kid spend their entire childhood in a group home or foster care than be adopted by a gay couple is completely foreign to me. How anyone can look at the shocking data on life outcomes for kids who spend prolonged periods of time in those systems and decide that’s the preferable option…well, I’ll never understand it.
Your sentiment, while emotionally full of compassion, is not a good argument for placing children in a homosexual environment. The children you reference that would "spend prolonged periods of time in those systems" wouldn't typically be selected by the groups you're cheerleader here: troubled, angry, etc. Usually, foster care is overseen by a family/group home where the children can create relationships with similar children. They don't need homosexuals interference.
Posted on 6/13/21 at 12:46 pm to Roger Klarvin
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, but the idea that you’d rather a kid spend their entire childhood in a group home or foster care than be adopted by a gay couple is completely foreign to me
Roger (apologies to the real TD Roger) with another straw man and false dichotomy/dilemma.
Posted on 6/13/21 at 12:47 pm to Toomer Deplorable
Gay people adopting children is pretty sickening. The GOP needs to grow up and start acting like the group the country needs them to be. Only a matter of time before they start ignoring the fact that those of us opposed to such an abominable action are correct.
This post was edited on 6/13/21 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 6/13/21 at 12:52 pm to Lima Whiskey
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The Republicans live and die by the approval of the Democrats.
And no morphing of opinion will ever appease them. The goalposts will forever be shifted.
Though I support civil unions and the right of free individuals to contract with whomever they please, marriage is rightly understood as a sacred ceremony between a man and woman and the State has no authority to redefine such an institution. Such an opinion comports with the oft-stated views of both Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton as recently as 2008 and 2013 respectively.
Yet by expressing such an opinion in 2021, I am suddenly a hate-filled and intolerant bigot? Again, who is truly displaying intolerance for divergent opinion in these never-ending cultural wars?
Obama: “As a Christian, I believe marriage is a sacred union between a man and a woman…”
“What I believe, in my faith, is that a man and a woman, when they get married, are performing something before God.”
VIDEO LINK: Hillary Clinton’s oft-stated support for civil unions and opposition to homosexual marriage….
This post was edited on 6/13/21 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 6/13/21 at 1:13 pm to Toomer Deplorable
I don't agree with Catholicism or any other religion either... but I'm disgusted that virtue signaling motherfrickers only attack Catholic and Christian believers. Why the frick aren't these grand, moral examples of humanity saying shite about Orthodox Jews and Muslims? Regarding homosexuality, they believe the same shite that Christians believe in.
It's like when ya see a smug motherfricker preaching to western nations about climate change and how everyone has to work together. But, they refuse to say shite about China or India.
It's like when ya see a smug motherfricker preaching to western nations about climate change and how everyone has to work together. But, they refuse to say shite about China or India.
Posted on 6/13/21 at 1:15 pm to Roger Klarvin
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but the idea that you’d rather a kid spend their entire childhood in a group home or foster care than be adopted by a gay couple is completely foreign to me. How anyone can look at the shocking data on life outcomes for kids who spend prolonged periods of time in those systems and decide that’s the preferable option…well, I’ll never understand it.
I understand your point, but if data is relevant then you have to look at the data on homosexual couples, particularly male couples.
The rate of domestic violence, drug use, and depression is significantly higher than heterosexual couples and the rate and degree of promiscuity is not just higher, it's exponentially higher.
It's like approving the adoption of a child into a heterosexual home in which there is good reason to believe that there's a 26% chance that one of them will become addicted to drugs, a 30% chance that there will be domestic violence, and 70% chance that both parents are uncontrolled sex addicts.
I understand that the child's future doesn't look bright in an institution, but if anybody is honest—and I understand that people are not honest about this b/c it's more important to be PC than actually look out for child welfare—you have to admit that two gay guys are a statistical bad risk for placing a child.
Posted on 6/13/21 at 1:24 pm to wackatimesthree
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you have to admit that two gay guys are a statistical bad risk for placing a child.
Yes
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The rate of domestic violence, drug use, and depression is significantly higher than heterosexual couples and the rate and degree of promiscuity is not just higher, it's exponentially higher.
This is something we need to talk about
Posted on 6/13/21 at 1:25 pm to loogaroo
Useless GOP. In 3 or 4 years they'll openly champion trans-rights.
They never "conserve" anything.
They never "conserve" anything.
Posted on 6/13/21 at 1:25 pm to Roger Klarvin
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He’s free to hold that belief, and church run adoption agencies should have the right to dole out children as they see fit, but the idea that you’d rather a kid spend their entire childhood in a group home or foster care than be adopted by a gay couple is completely foreign to me. How anyone can look at the shocking data on life outcomes for kids who spend prolonged periods of time in those systems and decide that’s the preferable option…well, I’ll never understand it.
But that’s not what’s happening in these cases...
Posted on 6/13/21 at 2:38 pm to Roger Klarvin
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but the idea that you’d rather a kid spend their entire childhood in a group home or foster care than be adopted by a gay couple is completely foreign to me. How anyone can look at the shocking data on life outcomes for kids who spend prolonged periods of time in those systems and decide that’s the preferable option…well, I’ll never understand it.
1) Very few kids actually spend "prolonged periods of time in these systems." The numbers I've seen hover between 40 and 80k. The vast majority of kids taken from parents end up with close family members within days or weeks, rarely it may take a few months.
2) Do you know the data for life outcomes among kids growing up in gay family households? My mother was a high school guidance counselor who retired a few years ago. She had two kids she knew of that grew up with gay parents; both had tons of issues with behavior, school, etc.
But, truth be told, gay parent adoption hasn't even been around long enough for us to know long-term outcomes, but by and large they won't be very good.
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