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re: Catholic baws, what the hell is wrong with your pope?
Posted on 6/6/19 at 1:42 pm to RobbBobb
Posted on 6/6/19 at 1:42 pm to RobbBobb
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But posters that have no problem with the new translation are saying they agree, because God wouldn't lead you into temptation. Which is clearly wrong. And yet facilitated in their thinking by a supposed pope
Well, I have no problem with it simply because it is a statistical certainty that NEITHER translation gets it exactly right.
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Posted on 6/6/19 at 1:42 pm to RobbBobb
quote:
I mean someone needs to remind the pope of that one tree placed in the Garden of Eden
The snake did the tempting in that story.
Posted on 6/6/19 at 1:44 pm to upgrayedd
quote:Yes.
Acknowledging that you'll sin in the future isn't some theological concept exclusive to Catholics
But planning to sin overtly, because, "well Jesus" is kind of a Catholic thing.
"Oh, I know I'm about to do shitty stuff but that's OK because I have Jesus!!!!"
Knowing you can't help but sin in the future and PLANNING to do it because it's no biggie "because Jesus" are two entirely different things.
Posted on 6/6/19 at 1:45 pm to TrueTiger
quote:He wasn't "tempting" Eve
The snake did the tempting in that story.
He was just "testing" her.
Posted on 6/6/19 at 1:45 pm to ShortyRob
I hear you.
But look,
of all the crap this Pope has done that I have an issue with, this is near the bottom.
But look,
of all the crap this Pope has done that I have an issue with, this is near the bottom.
Posted on 6/6/19 at 1:46 pm to TrueTiger
quote:Agreed.
of all the crap this Pope has done that I have an issue with, this is near the bottom.
Shouldn't make the top 100.
By definition, the last translation wasn't exactly correct. Getting mad that the prior not exactly correct version has been modified into a new not exactly correct version is..........meh
Posted on 6/6/19 at 1:52 pm to ShortyRob
Right, the long standing translation is fine too.
'Lead us not' can be read as
'lead us away from' or
'help protect us', or
'throw me a frikin bone here', etc., etc., etc.
'Lead us not' can be read as
'lead us away from' or
'help protect us', or
'throw me a frikin bone here', etc., etc., etc.
Posted on 6/6/19 at 1:53 pm to TrueTiger
quote:
'throw me a frikin bone here'
Posted on 6/6/19 at 1:53 pm to RobbBobb
Vatican 2.0
Posted on 6/6/19 at 1:53 pm to RobbBobb
He hates God. He is the false pope.
Posted on 6/6/19 at 1:53 pm to RobbBobb
I don't care for the Pope.
But the premise of this thread is ignorant.
But the premise of this thread is ignorant.
Posted on 6/6/19 at 1:55 pm to jrodLSUke
quote:
The original version of the Lord's Prayer was spoken in ancient Aramaic.
In Old Aramaic, the Lords Prayer section of "and lead us not into temptation" is the sixth of seven petitions. The sixth request in essentially not to be brought to a place where temptation might overwhelm us.
Because it is not wrong to be tempted or tested (Jesus absolutely was). It is wrong to give in to temptation (as Jesus didn't)
The prayer by Jesus was to tell his followers to ask the creator to make their choices easier, by not directing their path into a place of great temptation (as he had experienced himself from Satan). It does not mean anything AT ALL as to what the pope is now declaring, that God will not tempt you in any way, ever!
False theology. Keep your distance from this pope
Posted on 6/6/19 at 1:59 pm to TrueTiger
quote:
The snake did the tempting in that story.
Their translation was "lead us not into temptation", which would include not placing the tree there, or not allowing the snake to communicate, or not creating Eve, etc.
All things placed in their path by God, not the snake
Posted on 6/6/19 at 1:59 pm to RobbBobb
I don't give a frick what the pope thinks. What does the text say?
So after 2000 years this mother fricker is finally going to correct the translation? Yeah, frick this guy.
So after 2000 years this mother fricker is finally going to correct the translation? Yeah, frick this guy.
Posted on 6/6/19 at 2:05 pm to Langland
quote:
So after 2000 years this mother fricker is finally going to correct the translation? Yeah, frick this guy.
Do you believe that 2000 years ago somebody wrote down the Lord's Prayer in modern English?
Why is it so hard for people to understand this isn't the first time it has been translated and re-translated?
Posted on 6/6/19 at 2:05 pm to omegaman66
quote:
He hates God. He is the false pope.
As were all of them!
Posted on 6/6/19 at 2:07 pm to TrueTiger
quote:
Right, the long standing translation is fine too.
'Lead us not' can be read as
'lead us away from' or
'help protect us', or
'throw me a frikin bone here', etc., etc., etc.
Spoiler alert.
IMV, it is immensely arguable that God is NOT "good".
Alas. Another thread.
Posted on 6/6/19 at 2:09 pm to Langland
quote:
So after 2000 years this mother fricker is finally going to correct the translation? Yeah, frick this guy.
Seriously dude?
Read more.
The current translation isn't 2000 years old.
How the frick do some of you call yourselves Christians and not know basic shite like that?
Posted on 6/6/19 at 2:10 pm to GnashRebel
quote:
Do you believe that 2000 years ago somebody wrote down the Lord's Prayer in modern English?
Honestly, THIS is what I find most interesting about stories like this.
I mean, I begrudge no one their beliefs. I don't know everything.
But for frick's sake, if you're going to have a belief, at least KNOW THE frickING HISTORY of your own belief system!
Posted on 6/6/19 at 2:13 pm to Nado Jenkins83
quote:A pope has to be strange.......or have never read the new testament.
Current Pope is strange one
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