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re: Carney's Team Humiliated In D.C. — Not A Single Meeting Secured
Posted on 8/4/25 at 2:47 pm to Harry Boutte
Posted on 8/4/25 at 2:47 pm to Harry Boutte
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MAGA isn't so much an ideology as much as it's a bunch of hateful people who just want to see others suffer.
Chat GPT says this is what Harry Boutte most likely looks like
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Posted on 8/4/25 at 2:47 pm to crazy4lsu
quote:Yes, you are correct, dictatorial is the wrong term.
Do you know what dictatorial means? A state imposing a law that a legislative body voted on is not dictatorship. It might be heavy-handed, poorly thought out, etc., but it still isn't a dictatorship.
Fascistic is more appropriate.
quote:Yes, that is all true. I don’t think I have stated anything counter to that.
Which fits in with the trend of British common law on the subject. The US has always been an outlier with regards to free speech. They have always had a different tradition of free speech which was distinct from the version the US had, and those distinctions never were made coherent, because, again, the US has a slightly different intellectual tradition. Which again was based on a rejection of how the Brits treated other religions.
My point is, at what point are you willing to concede that these governments are becoming the entities that the west has routinely condemned?
We decry Russia and China for arresting opposing voices, yet it is perfectly acceptable in the case of the UK and our other “allies”.
Posted on 8/4/25 at 2:47 pm to TDTOM
No, I definitely don't think you care that you are retarded. Glad we agree. Good talk.
Posted on 8/4/25 at 2:48 pm to KiwiHead
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Because most MAGA are incredibly stupid and insecure and like Trump think that being a bully to a country you asked to by their goods from is screwing you even though they sell to you at below market is a good idea just because we can.
The arrangement with Canada has worked well for both countries since the mid 1960's and up until this February no one complained about
Leave room for the majority, probably vast majority, that simply enjoy flick'n shite at little bro that has recently come out of the closet.
Posted on 8/4/25 at 2:50 pm to Harry Boutte
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Cry harder
And there's the extent of MAGA foreign policy.
The foreign policy that cuts historic peace deals? The foreign policy that negotiates new historic trade deals where the U.S. and its tax payers aren't completely fleeced and taken advantage of in lopsided agreements? The foreign policy that has seen the Trump effect around the globe and citizens in other countries supporting and voting for their own Trump-type candidates?
Cry more, you little TDS bitch. Keep your Pamprin and box of tissues close by for the next 3.5 years. You're going to need them for your sore pussy and endless flow of tears.
This post was edited on 8/4/25 at 2:57 pm
Posted on 8/4/25 at 2:51 pm to crazy4lsu
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They are cucked to a dictatorial government
What?
You really need clarification on that? Have you been paying attention to politics and politicians in Canada for the last 5 years or so?
Posted on 8/4/25 at 2:52 pm to crazy4lsu
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Who are these states that can mount these expeditions? List them. Only the US has the logistical capability to do such a thing for the foreseeable future.
You seriously overestimate Canada's military capability and vulnerabilities. They have minimal capacity to take the fight to the shores of an adversary and no nuclear threat. A large percentage of their population lives in 3 concentrated areas, the rest is sparsely populated. One year without electricity and a sizeable percentage would be dead or gone. The government would be decapitated or incommunicado and their existing military would be a remnant. In other words, they are completely dependent on someone to provide protection, which right now and hopefully for a long time to come is the US. Look at the list of world militaries with a significant navy, air force and nuclear weapons, and there's your problem list if the US is unable to defend them.
This post was edited on 8/4/25 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 8/4/25 at 2:52 pm to KiwiHead
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Up until February there were no ruthless powers hassling Canada.
Poor Canda... We should just continue to let them fleece us in trade deals with lopsided tariffs that benefit them over us... just cuz... it's the nice thing to do? F uck you.
Posted on 8/4/25 at 2:53 pm to OccamsStubble
they do sell us a lot of lumber
Posted on 8/4/25 at 2:56 pm to Scruffy
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My point is, at what point are you willing to concede that these governments are becoming the entities that the west has routinely condemned?
There has always been an element of that. It is just part and parcel of geopolitics. The US and allies are sometimes more circumspect with their dirty work, but they will ignore things when it is convenient. People can have consistent principles but states just have interests. It is rare for those principles to become foreign policy goals unless there is a cogent political ideology to export, i.e. the Soviets and communism after WW2 or the Iranians and Revolutionary Islamism.
The US interests, broadly, are about rebuilding industrial capacity at home and in allied countries, as well as limiting Chinese influence. That should be the point of any tariff measures. There is no long-term reward or gain for treating allies poorly, in my view.
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We decry Russia and China for arresting opposing voices, yet it is perfectly acceptable in the case of the UK and our other “allies”.
Yes, the US is inconsistent about this and won't ever reach consistency. That isn't something we can achieve.
Posted on 8/4/25 at 3:00 pm to BTROleMisser
Hey dude, I didn't go to Oxford Mississippi thinking it was Oxford England......you did that. I can read a map.
Posted on 8/4/25 at 3:02 pm to wdhalgren
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You seriously overestimate Canada's military capability and vulnerabilities
No, I am estimating them correctly. They, like Mexico, have few external threats, thus are generally more interested in internal security.
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They have minimal capacity to take the fight to the shores of an adversary and no nuclear threat
Listen to me. There is no state that currently exists that could mount an invasion of Canada other than the US due to Canada's geography. The US is the only country in the world with the logistical ability to pull off expeditionary operations an ocean away. No one else has that capability.
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One year without electricity and a sizeable percentage would be dead or gone
Yeah no shite. That would be true of any country in the world. Given that this won't happen, I'm not sure what your point is.
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In other words, they are completely dependent on someone to provide protection, which right now and hopefully for a long time to come is the US.
Their only external threats in their history has been the US. They are more likely to dissolve due to internal threats than they are for any country, including Russia or China, to actually invade them.
They, quite rightly, realize that as long as US military might exists and is in US interest to pursue, they won't face an external threat.
Posted on 8/4/25 at 3:03 pm to BTROleMisser
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You really need clarification on that? Have you been paying attention to politics and politicians in Canada for the last 5 years or so
Do I need to teach you what words mean?
Posted on 8/4/25 at 3:07 pm to crazy4lsu
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They, quite rightly, realize that as long as US military might exists and is in US interest to pursue, they won't face an external threat.
You just made his point.
Posted on 8/4/25 at 3:11 pm to moneyg
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You just made his point.
You should learn to follow the thread and a line of argument.
Posted on 8/4/25 at 3:15 pm to crazy4lsu
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Yeah no shite. That would be true of any country in the world. Given that this won't happen, I'm not sure what your point is.
Well there's your problem. With no risk of retribution, those population centers would be sitting ducks. That's about 70% of Canadians. Russia and China could take them out tomorrow, and many more could do it in the years it would take Canada to build a strong enough military to strike back.
Posted on 8/4/25 at 3:17 pm to Harry Boutte
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Literally no one else hates Canadians.
Why should anyone else hate Canada? They are not "roading" anyone else's coattails.
Posted on 8/4/25 at 3:19 pm to crazy4lsu
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There is no long-term reward or gain for treating allies poorly, in my view.
I know just look at what happened to Canada after decades on cheating post NAFTA....
Well there was a long term reward, but it probably wont be worth it when their economy collapses.
Posted on 8/4/25 at 3:19 pm to Placekicker
Virtually everyone in Canada lives within an hour drive of the American border. It's just a U.S. suburb.
Posted on 8/4/25 at 3:20 pm to wdhalgren
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Russia and China could take them out tomorrow, and many more could do it in the years it would take Canada to build a strong enough military to strike back.
With out the US they would take Canada out tomorrow.
Putin would never have gone for Ukraine.
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